600 calories

Clanceycat
By Clanceycat Latest Reply 2011-09-07 18:15:41 -0500
Started 2011-09-06 05:12:53 -0500

So I've heard and read several times lately that there's a "cure" for diabetes only to find out you eat 600 calories a day for 8 weeks. Does anybody buy this idea? So many things seem wrong with this: my numbers are relatively good, from around 100 or less in the morning to highest of 120 during the day. I do need to lose weight and one of the questions I had about this "diet" is how drastically will this affect my glucose numbers? Will I plunge into a low? Another question, how do I get the nutriton I need on 600 calories a day? I suppose I can munch on greens all day…not good for me because I must avoid foods with vitamin K in them.

I hate the fact that it's harder for me, as a diabetic, to lose weight. Add in the fact I'm 50 (strike two). I'm almost (almost) tempted to try the 600 calorie a day diet but what happens after 8 weeks? Can I go up to 700 calories a day??!!


12 replies

TSasabuchi
TSasabuchi 2011-09-07 13:48:15 -0500 Report

THeres a 600 calorie diet called Dynamite 180 that actually works(no joking. google it!) but i dont believe it cures diabetes…might help though

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-09-07 11:24:51 -0500 Report

Clancey I am 60 so you youngster do not worry about calories. Diabetics need to worry about carbs and exercise. I highly recommend a diabetic education class so you can better understand your disease and how to eat correctly. I am partially disabled so exercise is difficult for me but not impossible just cant walk half a mile but there are other ways. After I started eating 3 meals a day I stopped taking insulin and lost 14 pounds in a month. During that month there was no exercise as I was recovering from surgery. Good luck and God bless.

Clanceycat
Clanceycat 2011-09-07 14:27:56 -0500 Report

I should have been more careful how I worded my post - I do not follow a 600 calorie diet, I do watch my carbs and I exercise every day…it's just harder to lose weight being diabetic. That's really my only frustration - I feel better than I have in years (that's because of the exercise and eating right) and know I'm healthier - my post was more to get opinion, not that I plan to do it myself. I like food way too much to do that to myself!!

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-09-07 14:30:56 -0500 Report

Clancey I did forget to mention too that muscle weighs more then fat. You might lose inches but the scales may not show a weight loss and can even show a gain. Keep plugging away we are with you in your struggles.

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-09-06 23:11:08 -0500 Report

I think 600 calories a day sounds absolutely crazy, you'd be starving yourself. For that matter there is no cure for diabetes, of any kind. You can do better than 100s to-120s by losing weight but starving yourself is going to make you unhealthy in other ways. If you managed to do 600 calories a day and not die and then went back to eating normally you would gain any lost weight right back plus some. That is the exact cause of yo-yo dieting, once you go back to eating real food in normal amounts you have learned nothing of portion control or nutrition, your starved body starts storing everything it gets as fat until you decide on a new crazy diet.

spiritwalker
spiritwalker 2011-09-06 18:54:12 -0500 Report

If you follow all the so called "cures" for diabetes you could end up in the hospital or worse. There is NO cure for diabetes only good control. Exercise,carb control, medication, following you diabetes educators plans, test and eat meals on time. avoid
alcohol, read and educate yourself, follow your MD"s orders.

realsis77
realsis77 2011-09-06 16:35:31 -0500 Report

Hi please be careful about these "cures" *honestly, in my opnion 600 calories is too low for a grown man! Id be extremely skeptical about this diet "cure". I would, number 1 , talk to my doctor before starting any kind of diet espically a diet that only allowed 600 calories! I would also pay close attention to how I'm feeling. If your dizy or light headed in any way Stop the diet. As far as I know diet CAN help control diabetes, however it CANNOT cure it. Control and cure are two different things. Diabetes is a strange monster and be careful NOT to stero type. NOT all diabetics are over weight for an example. I'm a type 2 on insulin and weigh 115 pounds. I'm not sure why diabetes choose me but it did. So when I read about diets that cure diabetes I know that's a false claim.I always ate healthy and I'm NOT overweight. There is no reason for diabetes to have struck , but it did. My point is the causes for diabetes is still under question so I'm pretty sure a strict diet won't cure it. Now, the diet can however help control it.so please be careful and remember your likely not going to cure your Diabetes,but it might help control it. Lastly, I think there are more comfortable ways and diets that help control diabetes than starving and only eating 600 calories. Id look into different diets for a control. Good luck and I wish you the very best!! Please think about changing diets to give yourself a bit more freedom. God bless you! Take care!

margokittycat
margokittycat 2011-09-06 12:35:45 -0500 Report

pLEASE TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR BEFORE DOING THIS. iT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR BODY TO HAVE LESS THEN 1000 CALORIES ADAY. AND YES I WOULD BE AFFRAID THAT IT WOULD GIVE YOU MANY LOW BS.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-09-06 12:25:06 -0500 Report

I am not a fan of things that are this restrictive for long periods. If you need a jump start or to try to learn some new habits that is great. I have to say, getting down to 600 calories is very hard to maintain and kudos to those who can do that.

I do believe there are things in it that we can adopt for ourselves and a healthy lifestyle. Now you mention that you are avoiding K, and that is a big red flag for me. I am sure that this diet is based a lot on plant based foods so you really need to be careful. I tried a rotation of a diet that went from 900 calories a day up to 1200 as time went on and then rotated back to 900. It was cyclical, and drove me nuts.

Before anyone tries something this drastic, I think they need to talk to a doctor first.

Clanceycat
Clanceycat 2011-09-06 12:56:46 -0500 Report

Yeah, not going to do it - just thought it was a pretty radical way to approach "curing" diabetes!!

I avoid vitamin K foods because I have a genetic blood disorder called Factor V Leiden and my body forms blood clots at an unusually high rate.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-09-06 06:22:58 -0500 Report

Howdy Clancey! WELCOME to DiabeticConnect!

I looked it up and found several references. One of those was from WebMD: http://diabetes.webmd.com/news/20110624/very-...:

[from the article]
"Eleven people who had been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes within the past four years slashed their calories for eight weeks, sticking to a diet of liquid diet drinks and non-starchy vegetables.
Three months after going off the diet, seven were free of diabetes." [end quote]

This is only very preliminary results with an extremely small number of people. They haven't discovered whether or not the people who were free from signs of diabetes were completely free from it or had merely put the condition on hold for a while.

So to address your concerns Clancy, Yes the effect was from losing weight, specifically in the pancreas (as we'll see later) And it seems that they ate those calories as "liquid diet drinks and non-starchy vegetables."

I have lost weight, about 50+ lbs of it by following a low carb high protein eating plan, but my diabetes shows no signs of leaving my body. Perhaps I have not lost enough, or I have had it too long, or I am just one of those folks on whom the eating plan had no effect. One of those 5 of 11.

[from the article]
"Taylor tells WebMD that the very low-calorie diet reduced the amount of fat in the pancreas and liver, which allowed insulin production and function to return to normal.
After one week on the diet, participants' fasting blood sugar levels were no longer elevated, he says.
MRI scans showed that the fat levels in the pancreas fell from around 8% — considered high — to a normal 6%.
After eight weeks on the diet, their bodies were once again making sufficient insulin, essentially reversing their diabetes, Taylor says.
"Fat in the pancreas inhibits the action of beta cells in making insulin. The low-calorie diet got rid of this excess fat," he says." [end quote]

This looks promising, especially for folks who have not had diabetes very long. However for folks to jump into a eating plan such as this may be hazardous to one's health if the balance between carbs, proteins and veggies are not right.

[from the article]
"More research is needed to determine whether the low-cal diet results in a permanent reversal of diabetes, Taylor says. "We also have to figure out a more practical way for people to get these results — that is, to get fat out of pancreas and keep it out," he says." [end quote]

I pray that the people who do these research studies will do larger studies and follow the subjects longer to determine the long term effects of the 600 calorie diet for more people.

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