Dropped high carb breakfast items?

KrisTX
By KrisTX Latest Reply 2011-09-11 10:39:58 -0500
Started 2011-09-05 14:28:20 -0500

So I'm learning that my recommended breakfast choices (whole grain Oatmeal and Cheerios) don't seem to be the best for diabetics? I'm worried that if I stop eating these things, my energy level will drop too much? Should I ignore the health values of whole grain meals or is there acceptable jumps in BG from eating these items. When i say jumps, my pre-meal BG is 95-110, my 2 hours post meal BG is 125-135ish when i eat these two items. Also I eat triscuits for another source of fiber because they are whole grain, should I avoid these as well? I Do not take any meds to manage my BG only diet and exercise.

Thanks for all the help learning here =)


18 replies

SheliaDell
SheliaDell 2011-09-11 10:39:58 -0500 Report

I'm finding that I'm extremely sensitive to carbs; so much so that I have all but eliminated them from my diet. I thought I was just weird, but I've talked to several other people with the same issues. My breakfast is usually protein and a lower-glycemic fruit serving. My energy level is much greater than when I eat carbs, healthy or not. When I do eat a little carb, it is whole-grain, but I can have very little each day. Usually, I opt for one of those new whole-grain sandwich thin rounds found in the bread department. I'll toast it and spread it with soft cheese (real cheese, not processed), or cut it into quarters to munch on in place of a cracker with a bowl of soup. My diet consists of protein, lower-glycemic fruits and veggies, and healthy fats like avocado, nuts, and olives. The minute I add more than one serving of carb every couple days to my diet, I begin gaining weight, my blood sugar spikes, and my energy level goes down. Maybe you're sensitive to carbs, too?

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-09-06 23:23:07 -0500 Report

My rule of thumb is to never eat anything that raises my blood sugar 50 points above my base line at two hours after the first bite. For me that does cut out some healthy whole grain items but not all of them. For instance, I can't eat oatmeal without a major spike but I can eat my fill of brown rice so I eat that instead. However when it comes to breakfast, my numbers are generally already higher in the morning so I shoot for low carb breakfasts filled with protein for my energy sources. I eat eggs, cheese, yogurt, sausages, low carb veggies, and the like in the mornings unless I have one of those rare mornings where my blood sugar is under 100 when I wake up. I don't entirely judge what I should and shouldn't eat based on what is healthy for the general population, I let my meter tell me what's good for me and then choose the health foods from that range.

NavyNerd
NavyNerd 2011-09-06 20:00:55 -0500 Report

I usually do egg white omlets with cheese, and a piece of GF toast. It works pretty well and keeps my sugars within reason.. My doc also says under 180 is good, under 140 better, and hollers when I go below 100 ( if I get that low I drop FAST and its no time at all till I hit 60)

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-09-07 11:17:36 -0500 Report

NavyNerd, I used to be like you too but started dropping at 120. My dr could not understand, neither could I. After attending diabetes class I learned I was not leveling out my carbs and why that is so important. Now my morning reading are between 80 to 95 and I do not crash with those. I stopped insulin (40 units a day) on Aug 2 because of the changes in my eating. I very much disagree with your dr that 180 is good only from what I have learned from the the class and on the diabetes sites. Please try to attend one of the classes sanctioned by the American Daibetes Association or set up an appointment with a Diabetic Diatician. As you learn more you might decided a different dr is in order. This is your life and your health at stake.

MEGriff1950
MEGriff1950 2011-09-05 22:15:49 -0500 Report

KrisTX from all I have read and learned from my doctor and by attending a diabetes education class 125 to 135 2 hours after a meal is excellant. I would not discontinue eating those nutritious healthy cereals if I was you. When I eat a high fiber meal my readings look bad 2 hours (150 to 160) later but drop to good within another hour. Two things that I strongly suggest #1 Attend a diabetes education class, I thought I knew everything there was to know about diabetes. I had the internet and did a lot of research. I was terribly wrong, I didn't know beans. #2 Keep a journal. I write down everything I eat even if it is considered "BAD" and then my bg test # and what time. You can lie to anyone you want but do not lie to your journal, you will use it often to see how different foods and eating schedules affected your bg numbers. If you go to AmericanDiabetesAssociation.com you will see that their recommended bg numbers are much higher then yours.

dgraff
dgraff 2011-09-06 08:27:31 -0500 Report

I went to a diabetes education class and learned so much. It was the best thing I could have done. I was really surprised at alot of things that I thought that were not true. It helped me tremendously.

robertoj
robertoj 2011-09-05 17:16:37 -0500 Report

Some recommendations state that BG should be under 180 two hours after starting a meal; my doctor recommends under 160; under 140 is excellent. You don't want to have it too low as it could have a negative affect on brain function. It is important to keep our BG in control but obsessing can become a problem that can lead to burn out. You are doing very well. God bless.

TSasabuchi
TSasabuchi 2011-09-05 17:02:05 -0500 Report

Whole grains arent really what their all cracked up to be. A good breakfest suggestion i use is eggs(without milk) and bacon. you can have as much as you want and its still 0carb. or you can switch in sausage or have all 3. very filling, high in protein, and no carbs.

KrisTX
KrisTX 2011-09-05 21:40:17 -0500 Report

One thing i am worried about sausage and bacon is because i'm trying to also lower my triglycerites (sorry for the spelling) and my high cholesterol. Aren't these two items high in fat?

Quilter64
Quilter64 2011-09-05 15:23:50 -0500 Report

My doctor tells me that if my BG is under 140 after a meal, she is happy with that. 125-135 sounds pretty good to me.

KrisTX
KrisTX 2011-09-05 16:41:23 -0500 Report

how long after a meal though, i test 1 hour, its about 130-140 for most meals, i test 2 hours, its back down close to pre-meal. As for testing for your peak, well that confuses me because if i test it 30 mins after my meal, its 180+ usually, but another 30 mins and its down under the limits. I'm really confused as to the best time to test, I keep reading 2 hours post meal is the best, so thats what i been going with, but people keep talking about your "peak" post meal BG.

grandmaducky
grandmaducky 2011-09-05 15:33:38 -0500 Report

i am like quilter if its under 140 i am fine with that its your choice and next time ask doc what # u should be trying for but the 125-135 sounds okay I my can eat some whole grains without a problem and others raise me too much i make note like james does them you have different choices to choose from :)

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-09-05 15:16:49 -0500 Report

Really, nobody can tell you that what to eat and what to avoid. That is one of the things you have your glucometer for. Your glucometer is your best buddy as it will tell you what spikes you and what will not. 135 after a meal is not ALL that bad. I would make a suggestion as to how to better tell what spikes you and what doesn't.

What I do is to take a BG reading before I test a food. That is my baseline reading. I determine what a "serving" of a particular food is using either foodpicker.org (http://foodpicker.org/) or nutrition data.com (http://nutritiondata.self.com/) eat a recommended portion of that food. Then 2 hrs lafter my first bite I take a "postpramdial" reading. That will tell me how much that particular portion of food has raised my BG levels over my baseline readings. If it raises my BG less than 50 pts, I may eat that portion without much trouble. If it raises my BG over 50 then I need decide whether it is too much over 50 or not and I may want to retest it with a lower portion size. If it is closer to a 100 pts raise then I usually decide to avoid that food altogether.

I then put a page in my 3 ring binder with that food on it, and record the baseline, the portion conumed and the postprandial results, and my decisions made, whether to retest with a lower portion, and then results of that test, or if I decided to avoid that food altogether.

I do that so I remember what I've tested and what my decisions were, so I don't have to test again needlessly.

That way I have a book of what works for ME and my metabllism specifically.

You can do the same for you.

I pray this is helpful to you.

James

Junior89
Junior89 2011-09-05 14:43:43 -0500 Report

i wouldn't so much ignore it just take half in the breakfast time then lunch to keep you up thro the day eat a lil more then half and that goes for snack time also

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