tsunami effect

By peg50 Latest Reply 2011-08-26 16:23:37 -0500
Started 2011-08-21 15:09:27 -0500

Hi everyone. My doctor seems to think I have something called the tsunami effect. My blood glucose is fine when I wake up, but it gets as much as 50 points higher 2 hours later. I drink a high protein low carb drink within a 1/2 hour of waking up and it still goes up 2 hours later before I eat breakfast, although not as much. My doctor suggested I eat my breakfast first, before I work out and then I can have my high protein drink later. The thing is I get up at 3:30 in the morning to work out and don't feel like eating my breakfast then. Has anyone else had this experience? Thank you

18 replies

Jupeto 2011-08-26 07:55:18 -0500 Report

I have been diabetic over ten years and never had anyone say something about the tsunami effect. I have heard of the Dawn Phenomina (DP), which is that the body wakes up and sugar is released to get you going. That is controlled by having a low carb snack at night with some protein. I had to do away with the protein shakes. put me way out of control. I am waiting for a low carb, High protein to hit the market for Diabetics. Have not found one yet.

tabby9146 2011-08-24 14:52:27 -0500 Report

I wish I could help with that, but never heard of it and I don't have it, but I see you got some good replies. Can I ask, what is the protein/low carb drink? I am interested in trying something like that. Best wishes to you!

jladytiger1979 2011-08-23 10:34:41 -0500 Report

Combo of the dawn effect with exercise. I have the dawn effect and have to eat shortly before I go to bed. If not my sugars are higher when I wake up than when I go to sleep. if you add exercise on top of that, your body thinks it is starving and the liver kicks in. You should try before bed, a snack before workout (even if you don't feel like eating anything) or both. See what works for you because unfortunately there isn't a written manual to follow for diabetes. Our bodies have their own minds!!

peg50 2011-08-26 10:22:29 -0500 Report

I believe I worked it out. I still have my snack at bed time, but now I have my low carb protein drink as soon as I wake up, and I eat breakfast within an hour after working out. This maintains my blood glucose in the morning. Thank you everyone.

George1947 2011-08-22 02:10:55 -0500 Report

Is it possible you're thinking of the Somogyi effect which is a rebound from a night time low? If that's the case, you need to be sure you eat a protein snack at bed time to counter act the low BG you have at night.

robertoj 2011-08-22 18:21:37 -0500 Report

At first I never ate snack at night; after I heard about the affect I incorporated it in my regimen. When I forget I have high readings in the morning.

peg50 2011-08-22 07:48:44 -0500 Report

Thanks. I typically have a bed time snack anyway. I was thinking of going without it to see what happens, but I am not sure it would have an effect on my glucose reading 2 hours after I wake up

jayabee52 2011-08-22 02:30:34 -0500 Report

that sounds reasonably like Tsunami effect if one is not familiar with the term. Thanks. I didn't think of like-sounding words. Possibly a good catch, George!

jayabee52 2011-08-21 19:19:46 -0500 Report

Peg, I have searched several places using the terms "tsunami effect" and "diabetes tsunami effect" I tried searching on google and also on medical websites like the NIH, Mayo clinic, and Web MD. I got a lot of hits on Google, all having to do with the physical Tsunami, either the one in Japan, or the general effects of Tsunamis or the theory of wave action. Nothing having to do with medicine. The medical websites drew a blank regarding those search terms.

Is this something your Dr just made up? I would think that if it was a medical effect, there would be SOME reference to it in the medical literature.

peg50 2011-08-22 07:47:42 -0500 Report

Thanks for doing some research. I haven't done that yet. Actually my doctor was very clear with the term tsunami effect. He said it was named after the man who coined the term for the tsunamis that happen sometimes after earthquakes. I don't know. I will try doing some research as well. Thank you for putting your own personal time to help

JoleneAL 2011-08-21 18:55:08 -0500 Report

I can get up normal and within an hour, if I have not taken any insulin, I'm over 200. I know why you're taking the drink, so you don't crash during the work out. Can you go without it and let the work out keep you normal?

peg50 2011-08-22 07:45:41 -0500 Report

Thanks. I tried that only once, and it didn't really make a difference. My doctor said to try eating my regular breakfast first, and have the protein drink before I leave for work. My concern would be taking my meds at 3:45 in the morning and having it last throughout the day until my dinner at night. I will keep experimenting

realsis77 2011-08-21 18:44:39 -0500 Report

No I've never heard of it but I have heard of the Dawn Effect. I'm wondering if its the same thing? But usually with the dawn effect you wake up with high blood sugar.

flipmom 2011-08-21 16:17:18 -0500 Report

i eat at least 2 hours before waking up and my readings gets higher at least 25 points before eating.. i think the carb on your protien drinks makes your reading higher.. not only a meal can make your reading high even drinks. just a thought..

peg50 2011-08-22 07:50:03 -0500 Report

Thanks. Sometimes it's confusing to know what to eat and when. My doctor told me to try and eat my regular breakfast first, before my workout, and then have the protein drink later before I go to work. In other words, reverse the two.

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