Religious Groups

alicejoart
By alicejoart Latest Reply 2011-09-02 18:28:01 -0500
Started 2011-08-20 22:25:33 -0500

At work, we have many religions and cultures. Some of these groups do not follow Western medicine. Some of them talked me out of my diabetic diet because of their beliefs and I wanted to be normal.

How have you deal with religious groups and cultures who do not understand how we need to manage Type 2 diabetes?

Thanks,
No no longer influenced or confused…


22 replies

Jupeto
Jupeto 2011-09-01 20:54:20 -0500 Report

I am a pastor of a Protestant church. I would never try to talk anyone out of following a doctors orders regarless of my religion. If a doctor is telling you to do something - unless he is telling you false information, listen to him, not someone who doesn't know what they are talking about. By the way you are normal, you just have diabetes. It is like having high blood pressure. You deal with it and learn to live with it. facts of life you may need to listen to from now on. Good luck and don't listen to those telling you not to listen to your doctor. PJNLF - Pastor John, New Life Fellowship Church of the Nazarene, Marlborough, MA.

alicejoart
alicejoart 2011-09-01 23:37:20 -0500 Report

I have learned not listen to those who do not know about diabetes. I am glad God has blessed me with good advisors from this site as we do know more than most people.

granniesophie
granniesophie 2011-08-21 17:51:23 -0500 Report

I am sorta Jewish (don't ask!!) and I had a Rabbi tell me when I was pregnant with my 1st child way back around 150 years ago, and we were approaching an important Jewish Holy day requiring fasting, that G-d would understand if I couldn't fast, because he would want us to take care of our bodies and our needs before our Religious needs.
Even though I practice no organized religion right now, I still believe that G-d would want us to take care of ourselves first and do what we feel is right for us first.
That's sort of been my answer to alot of things, especially my Diabetes, since I beleive that G-d made man smart enough to make the medicines and foods to help us manage, so we should use them as he wanted us to. If he didn't want us to, He wouldn't have allowed us to invent these things.
That's just my opinion-but it works for me in alot of different ways.

Jupeto
Jupeto 2011-08-26 08:00:02 -0500 Report

I have to agree that God has made us smart enough to take care of physical needs over the religious - i am a minister in the Nazarene church and no where will any sensible pastor, rabbi, Imam tell you to get off your disbetic diet

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-08-21 16:41:54 -0500 Report

Howdy Alice!
I am Christian, so I come from that viewpoint. No one can make you do something you do not want to do. I am curious as to what group (or groups) is talking down your way of managing your diabetes?

Yes I understand the desire to want to get along with these folks, but I wonder if this is an issue of having a supervisor, boss or someone over you who is influencing you? Or is it simply an issue of getting along with your co workers? Did what they influence you to do or stop doing, help or hinder your control of your diabetes?

I know that you say that you are no longer influenced or confused. And basicly uour response to realsys is the best, IMO. Acknowledge their advice and thank them, but respectfully decline telling them that "I am currently doing well in managing my diabetes. Should I have trouble managing it, I will take your views into consideration."

You are thereby acknowledging their views and politely declining declining them.

Praying God's richest blessings shower upon you and yours

James

alicejoart
alicejoart 2011-08-21 21:25:09 -0500 Report

I think they are Scientology or some other cult. They did wear me down to where I went to doing what I was doing before diabetes. I ended up with a very high a1c. I am taking medications to bring it down and making sure the necessary life style changes stick this time. I have been told to ignore these folks. My supervisor is very supportive and knows. We have been loud about the problem!

I am saying "Thank you, but no."

G-d's blessings
Alice

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-08-22 01:19:49 -0500 Report

Yes several folks I know have had problems with them. The one gal from my church had been one at one time, decided what they were all about was not for her anymore, and then when she left the group they wouldn't leave her alone. Almost like a jealous husband stalking his ex wife.

waricks
waricks 2011-08-21 13:36:53 -0500 Report

I understand what you are going through. I have a boss that is like that in a way. When I was DXed he took a look at his diet and decided to make a change. I changed to eating smaller portions and eat way less red meat and have a larger intake of vegetables and fruits. He has gone vegan and has read the book called The China Study. He now believes he is an expert on how to CURE my Diabetes. He says that by eating nothing but raw fruits and vegetables I could immediately stop taking my meds. He drinks these green smoothies 2 or 3 times a day and that is all he eats. He gave me one and my sugar went from 105 to 320 in less than two hours. He still believes that the meds are the problem and if I would stop taking the meds the smoothie would not have raised my sugars at all. It has gotten to the point where I can't even eat around him without getting some kind of speech about how his diet will cure me and I am stupid for not listening to him and poisoning my body with medications.

alicejoart
alicejoart 2011-08-21 21:28:09 -0500 Report

I totally agree. I think we live around people who think they are the experts. Sometimes I want to bring them to my diabetes classes so they can know what they think they know…because of these folks my a1c was at 13. I am now doing what my diabetic nurse is training me to do. My a1c is at 7.9. I am almost there…thank you.

Inrvizion
Inrvizion 2011-08-21 18:50:47 -0500 Report

Your boss is misappropriating the limited knowledge that he has about a raw foods approach to treating / managing and even reversing diabetes. If you like to know more about the real possibility of getting off your medication through a raw foods dietary approach please check out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGjVJvOS8SU - This is a video called Simply Raw- reversing diabetes in 30 days and if you are willing to use 90 minutes of your time to watch it you will see that many people with type 2 who use the raw foods approach are able to completely stop taking any and all medicines they were on before this diet that were used to treat their diabetes. I started a discussion on here regarding raw foods and other dietary approaches to treating type 2 as well as type 1 diabetes. Please check it out and add your 2 cents @ - http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/12103 -

-Russell

realsis77
realsis77 2011-08-21 11:24:43 -0500 Report

Hi. I'm also a Christian but I believe we have medicine for a reason and its important we take our medicine. In dealing with other groups always be respectful and let them know you have your way and they have theirs. Neither is write or wrong just different. Hopefully they will respect your decisions and they things you have to do just as you respect theirs. I hope this helped a little :) good luck

alicejoart
alicejoart 2011-08-21 12:52:07 -0500 Report

Thank you. I know that we have to be respectful. I have learned to acknowledge their advice. This is all I can do…

Teresa Rose
Teresa Rose 2011-08-21 04:38:57 -0500 Report

I am a christian and I trust God to help me to choose and eat a proper diet. I don't eat what I want. God gave us a brain for a reason, to use it. I believe in divine healing and I have been healed before. I don't eat the things I shouldn't and then expect God to heal me or make my BG just right. I take care of myself because he expects me too,

alicejoart
alicejoart 2011-08-21 12:53:50 -0500 Report

Ah, we do have free will in our choices of food. I want to thank you for pointing out that God wants us to take of ourselves. This is the body he has given us and had trusted us not to harm it. Thank you.

Cookie Roma
Cookie Roma 2011-08-21 02:49:21 -0500 Report

I just explain that I do the things I do literally for my health. I respect them following the traditions they follow but this is something I have to dj. I absolutely believe that GOD knows and doesn't see me as disrespectful..

alicejoart
alicejoart 2011-08-21 12:55:24 -0500 Report

So, Cookie what if they want to argue? I believe I asked my question because some of these groups want to challenge Western medicine and prove it wrong. Yet we cannot argue with diabetes…we are literally guarding and sustaining our lives for the rest of our life.

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