By Jbturnb Latest Reply 2011-08-11 02:17:11 -0500
Started 2011-08-01 12:26:21 -0500

Why since I have been told I am type 2 , I have really been in denial. It's been 4 years and I still fill like there's been a mistake.sugar runs in 200's and when I ask what to eat they tell me there is no diet just cut your sugar? Need some feed back to really get on track.I try to take medications but I am real sensitive to drugs and they are going to try me on actos but if that doesn't work than I will have to start on shots.I am over weight by 100 lbs. Any advice will be appreciated.

28 replies

Gimpalong 2011-08-04 00:27:57 -0500 Report

I was diagnosed in 1992 with diabetes. I was on diet and medications at the time. My diabetes was discovered when I had foot surgery. An endocrinologist was called in, and also a nutritionist. I was in isolation for 8 weeks because I had MRSA. The bad stuff started on day one for me. I learned fast the bad things that can happen to our bodies. I work with a nutritionist now because I am new to insulin. He gave me the cutest little plate last week, it is about the size of a child's plate. It is marked with a section for protein, non-starchy carbs, and salad "free" foods. I have several booklets that show how to measure carbs, fats, and proteins. The way we eat now with diabetes is far different than it was for me in '92. I could have no sugars, no potatoes, no desserts, and no candies or sodas. I found a book called "Dummy Book for Diabetics". I also agree about the book by Gretchen Becker. It helped me a lot. Just try to read and research all you can find to help you with your diabetes. There are some great cookbooks now for meals for people with diabetes. Good luck. Nancy

cindygal1 2011-08-10 22:49:47 -0500 Report

First of all you need to get outof denial, and accept the fact that you have diabtes, and you have to learn how to eat and what to eat, you have a meical problem that needs treating and if it is not,then it will only get worse. I was diagnosed in 1992, and i have learnd to keep mine in cheik, my husbsand was disagnosed last month and we have his under control. That is the only way that you learn about diabetes. The more you learn the better off you will be. I would like to your friend an welcome to diabetic. You could not be at a better place to learn a lot if you wish too.

sweething 2011-08-03 10:30:16 -0500 Report

I've had type 2 since I was 32. I never believed it and lived my life that way. The consequences? Painful and depressing peripheral neuropathy and a frozen shoulder, retinopathy and partial loss of sight in one eye. Learn to count carbs and life will be easier. Info available on line or see a dietician to learn how. Otherwise there will be a consequence to your denial. I'm sorry for my denial but it hasn't been too difficult to prevent more complications. Best of luck.

jladytiger1979 2011-08-03 07:29:17 -0500 Report

I went to the doctor last year becuase something was wrong with my thyroid. DOH! Guess what? Wasn't my thyroid I was diagnosed with diabetes. Great. For the previous 7 months my PCP (dumped him by the way) said I was just depressed and shoveled anti-depressants down my throat. Who knew?! You should seek out a diabetic support group in your area also (not that this site isn't AWESOME). Also, if you are able, see a diabetic dietitian if possible. That's the first thing my endocrinologist did for me after my diagnosis. Was the best thing that could have happened. I was sick after my diagnosis. After talking to the dietician I realized, DUH, I'm not supposed to cut out ALL my carbs!!!! Do lots of research. Counting carbs is the easiest. I was told 45-60 (Im big boned-ha) 3 meals a day and up to 2 snacks 15-20 carbs. If you see a dietician they can contour it to you. Also, as you go along you will find foods that trigger your sugars to be higher. Start out simple. Step back and take a deep breath. Don't overwhelm yourself and take it a day at a time!

calif granny
calif granny 2011-08-03 00:14:14 -0500 Report

Starting about 10 years ago, I was told I was pre-diabetic. Only because I was having nerve pain in my feet. My sugar numbers were a little high, but I was eating all sugar. I was diagnosed with peripheral neuropathy. Through the years, the pain has gotten unbearable. I did start Metformin for a while. I tried everything I could think of to relieve the pain. Finally, I got a spinal cord stimulator, and on morphine and oxycodone. I have had all kinds of medications with the side effects. I still do not feel it is diabetes. After researching, there are so many other causes of neuropathy. Toxins, metals, actual nerve damage due to trama. I no longer take the Metformin. I do check my sugar numbers regularly. Once in a while they are high, but I am way more careful what I eat. If I cut out all the ice creme, they are normal. I have lost about 20 lbs in the last 3 months. I just do not have an appetite. I have to make my self eat. The pain specialist told me even if it was not diabetes, what does it hurt to let my medical records show that it is. The insurances do not question any procedure. They just chock it up to diabetes. I ended up with an ulcer on the bottom of my left foot. It took 2 years to heal. But it did finally heal. My podiatrist was not aggressive at all. I have absolutely no feeling in either foot. I lost my job 2 years ago because of all the medical leave I was taking and filed for retirement. I am only 56. It was such a hassle proving pain is not a reason to work. I had to see an Independent Medical Examiner. I got the letter today. He verified I am unable to work. I am so happy. I was a little concerned, it could have gone either way. The examiner was also a podiatrist. I felt a neurologist would have been a better choice. Finally. I will qualify for medicare and can get decent medical care. Anyway, back to the denial. Yes, I am still in denial and don’t think anyone will ever convince me it is diabetes. Even though it does run in my family. I will continue to watch my sugar numbers. Thanks so much for this site. I have learned so much from you all.

Diaschm 2011-08-03 07:51:27 -0500 Report

Sometimes people who have pain problems as bad as yours tend to blame everything on the pain problem. I ran Loyola University's only Pain support group for 10 years and believe me because I have seen thousands threw the years who had pain disorders either with RSD or Fibro. They tend to lump all their problems into their pain problem. I did it myself. I was told I was a borderline diabetic. Well there is no such thing in my opinion in my view. I kept on blaming my pain problem. Well this was what I told myself,I wasn't over weight, I was active, I I I I… every excuse I could come up with! But the truth was that I had RSD and I had diabetes and I had to deal with both. I was dealing with my pain problem. I have a morphine infusion pump which I have had since 1995 [ not the same one of course it has been replace about every 6 years} and I do Biofeedback, Meditation, and visualization techniques to deal with pain. But never the less I do have Diabetes and I am now dealing with that. I did not take it seriously until I got pancreatitis and I was forced to deal with my diabetes!! Please believe your doctor on this one before it is too late! You sound like you are diabetic. Please get a second opinion and sound blood tests and do believe the blood tests and take care of yourself! You sound like you have two things to deal with but please find out for sure. I almost died from not paying attention to my diabetes!

calif granny
calif granny 2011-08-03 15:52:04 -0500 Report

I have read many times there is no such thing as borderline diabetes also. I keep reading here about pancrcreatitis. I have never really heard of it before. My best friend has pancreatic cancer. Thanks for the reply. I will be more careful with the diabetes. Just recently something changed with me. Until now, I had lost my will to live. I had given up. The only thing that kept me going was the love for my family. I started journals to my family. I just quit. I slept the last year away because of depression. Then I lost the good insurance and had to quit most of my medications. Getting off Lyrica, in my opinion, is what changed. Before, I would fall off the couch while asleep, sitting up. I fell asleep with cigarettes in my hand. Would never lay in bed smoking. Still don’t. I have not had blood work in over a year because of insurance. Just yesterday I got the approval letter for my disability retirement. I am hoping that will help me get on medicare. Isn’t the only way they can tell you have diabetes is by lab work? I also use meditation and visualization along with the spinal cord stimulator and narcotics. I hate the narcotics. 2 years my dad passed away. On top of the stress, my ankles were swollen twice the size. My daughter happened to call and I somehow conveyed to her I was in trouble. She came and took me to the hospital. I remember telling them I didn’t feel good and went to sleep. I woke up in full blown withdrawals. The doc had given me Narcan and told me I had taken a drug overdose. I tried telling him in-between the thrashing and uncontrollable jerks that I had not. I had only taken 1 morphine in the morning. They did not even address any kidney problems. My swollen ankles should have told them something. I am still having issues over this. I can still remember the feeling I was having at the time. I so appreciate this site and your comments. It helps to share. Thanks again for your reply. I will most certainly take diabetes more serious.

MadManBro 2011-08-02 15:44:43 -0500 Report

Coming here and making this post marks the end of your denial. I am newly diagnosed, but as I have mentioned in earlier posts, I knew I had this disease nearly ten years before I got the official diagnosis. I wasn't in denial about it, but I thought I could treat myself. Although I didn't do myself too much harm by the small adjustments I tried to make, I still did far less good for myself than was needed. Now I have felt a small fraction of what damage can be done. So think about the risks of: Blindness; Amputations; Stroke; Heart Disease; Kidney Failure. Recognize that there are members among us who have actuially experienced some of these things and are here to help the rest of us avoid going throuigh those pains. There is a saying about learning from the mistakes of others. Do what you can to not become one of the 'others' that future members learn from. Diabetes has been known for more than a thousand years and just in the last century has the knowledge and treatment become common and effective. It is unfortunate that people take it so lightly because it is never named as a cause of death. Nobody ever says she/he died of Diabetes the way that they do about cancer or AIDS. But diabetes is often the root cause of the diseases that ultimately claims the life of the sufferer. Isn't the risk of losing vision and limbs enough? It isn't a difficult lifestyle to adapt to if you think about the changes. Even when you are out with friends and family, you can still enjoy just about everything that they can, but you need to be aware of controlling your portions. I may be oversimplifying things a bit, but you really can't live in denial of an incurable disease. You can treat it or it can kill you.
Back to the beginning of my long-winded reply though; your denial ends here. Welcome to a new life.

Diaschm 2011-08-03 08:03:11 -0500 Report

listen to this, it is a very good reply and I agree with him! Welcome to a new life but remember what I said get those blood tests and believe them! A couple of A!c tests should tell you the real story.

sarazion 2011-08-02 10:59:02 -0500 Report

I am a type 1 "brittle" diabetic and for the first year I actually did really good. I ate what I was supposed to, checked my sugar, and exercised daily. However, once I got I entered my sophomore year in high school, I started to get angry. All my friends could eat sweets and bread and all these delicious things I was not allowed to have. So instead of looking the other way, I indulged. My hypothesis was that if I purged what I ate, it would not affect my blood without even really thinking about it, I became bulimic. I suffered for many years with this and by the way, it does affect your sugars. After years of not taking care of myself what so ever, my legs started swelling and turning purple, and the pain was absolutely unbearable. However, not even that stopped me. No, it wasn't until I was 20 when I pounded a 1/5 of Vodka until I woke up. All I remember is being sick beyond belief and the pain in my stomach was like 10 knives stabbing and digging. I went to the hospital and they told me I had pancreatitis. They also told me if I ever got it again, I would most likely die. So because I denied the fact I had a serious illness, I earned myself neuropathy, pancreatitis, an eating disorder, and a family that was so worried about me that they actually had an intervention. I tell my story so that young people and even old who have recently become diabetic, can realize the seriousness of diabetes. This can kill you, but it does not have to.

Lokie60 2011-08-02 10:25:20 -0500 Report

I have diabetes now for 2 years and yes I was in denial as well for about a month. then I realized I could die from this so I had better get my act together. I have not maintained my BS (between 88 & 99), I have lost 178 pounds and feel wonderful. Please do not keep denying this, it could kill you. get with your doctor and figure out what meds to take and take them. You will start to feel better and could live a lot longer. My doctor has me on Meitform and it seems to do a great help with me. And yes, please lose that excess weight by eating small portions, plenty of vegetables and fruit. I eat anything I want to, but in moderation. Maybe a bite of that snickerdoodle cookie, that's it. Please my friend get with your doctor and get your life back!!

nanaellen 2011-08-01 21:27:07 -0500 Report

Denial is definitely your worst enemy!! But we've ALL been there!! It's quite a normal reaction! But let me tell you denial put me where I am today! When I first was Dx 6 years ago I went right to 3 shots of insulin a day and 1 shot at night. Went to a diabetes class. Watched what I ate…no sugar just like they told you…but no one said a word about carbs. Well, I got off of the daytime shots and just took my 1 shot at night. Then I went into denial and basically ignored my diabetes. The fact that I had no med. insur. definitely played a big role too but the point is…because I denied it… I ended up in the hosp. with gall stones and chronic pancreatitus (that was last November) I've been back in the hospital 5 times since then with severe pancreatitus. They've now found a cyst at the opening to the pancreas and a small tear in the middle. My BS #'s have been over 300 since Nov. right up until last week when I finally got them below 200!!! The Best thing you can do for yourself is to stay right here on THIS site because you'll get more information here than anywhere else!! In MY opinion that is!! LOL I'm still back to 3-4 shots a day and 1 at night but I learn something new here everyday!! As you can see from my pic I'm overweight too and that does play a big part. Watch your carbs and serving sizes too get started. It'll get easier over time but it takes a LONG time to get control back so just start each day one day at a time!! You'll find GREAT people who have been through EXACTLY what your going through! Come back and visit often you'll get lots of replies!! :) Sincerely, Ellen
P.S. Find yourself a good dietician or Endo Dr. that's what I intend to do!!

alanbossman 2011-08-01 21:20:51 -0500 Report

First off you do need to lose your 100lbs. This will help a lot, and really their not a diabetes diet, you just have to cut down your carb intake and eat your meals in portion size. By cut down on your carb intake will help lose some of those lbs.

Doc 720
Doc 720 2011-08-01 15:39:58 -0500 Report

My two cents from a previous discussion:

When I was diagnosed, I found this, The most EXCELLENT and INFORMATIVE book (at least to me) "The First Year, Type 2 Diabetes, An Essential Guide for the Newly Diagnosed" (A Patient-Expert Walks You Through Everything You Need to Learn and Do). The author is Gretchen Becker.

I more than recommend this!! I suggest this be a permanent fixation in every Type 2's library!! It helped me so much that first year and has continued to be a good source of info when needed.

Reviews:;;; (have to go down the page a little bit but it is there)

5 months ago

George1947 2011-08-02 01:58:29 -0500 Report

Gretchen is a wonderful person and her book is first rate! I've known her since she was diagnosed… Another great resource is David Mendose and his website. (I don't have that link at the moment.)

lmkilday 2011-08-01 14:50:16 -0500 Report

Meet with a diabetic educator to general info on what foods you have to avoid. Get a copy of The Diabetes Carbohydrate & Fat Gram Guide by Lea Ann Holzmeister, RD, CDE or similar book to check the carb values of foods. Check the recipes on this website and find the ones you like. Make your shopping list for the ingredients of the items you will need from the store. Generally, meats and cheeses have little or no carbs. Things to avoid in the beginning are pastas and rice. Use breads, potatoes, fruits, fruit juices and certain vegetables, like corn and peas sparingly. Other vegetables, like beans, cauliflower, broccoli, zucchini, etc. have few carbs and you can eat more of these. Salads are a good choice, as long as you don't include pasta or too much fruit. Read the labels on the products you are buying for total carb content. Watch for sugar alcohols. Your blood sugar may go up more than if you ate regular sugar.

I look for substitutes for high carb foods like bread. There are low carb breads, several made by Pepperidge Farm. I also make my own products instead of packaged ones. That way I can use a sugar substitute instead of the large amount of sugar in products, especially drinks like iced tea. Or I buy flavored tea with no carbs. I still enjoy a lot of my favorites I had before my diabetes diagnosis, but I just have to make them differently. I now make pizza in a bowl instead of buying a pizza. Pizza in a bowl is the pizza without the crust, which was always my least favorite part of the pizza. You can buy low carb flour to make your own bread. The ads claim it has 20% of the carbs of regular flour.

For exercise, I walk if the weather cooperates. If I'm going to the store, I walk to and from the store. Or I can walk around the park (.5 miles each lap). If the weather doesn't cooperate, I work out at home. I have a sit 'n stroll (a stepper used while I am sitting at my desk) and I work out with weights. If I don't work out at all during the day, my blood sugar is between 115 and 125. If I do workout 30 minutes a day, my blood sugar is between 85 and 105.

You can e-mail me through this site if you want to ask me questions.

realsis77 2011-08-01 14:01:14 -0500 Report

Hi. I was in denial UNTIL I got put on insulin! Then I finally came to accept my diabetes. I did a lot of reading and bought some great books on the newly diagnosed diabetic. They really helped a lot! They helped me realize how important it is to care for my diabetes and follow my treatment plan! Look at the alternative? Complcations! God knows no one wants complcations so we do what we have to do today to keep those complcations away! Its time to do some reasearch, learn as much as you can about diabetes because knowledge is power! Power over this disease! I know its very hard to accept. I actually thought my dr would call me back and say, oops I made a mistake your not diabetic. But that call NEVER came and never will come. I finally had to accept the facts and start dealing with it! I truely wish you the best of luck and pray you begin to accept the diabetes so you may begin to follow your treatment plan! I do understand how your feeling and I am here for you! I have been through the denial . I believe its a normal reaction. Hang in there and God bless! Also if you do have to go to injections, I'll be here for you. I take injections and its really not bad. It actually makes you feel a lot better!! Its just the fear of the unknown. Trust me they don't hurt! I felt soooo much better on my insulin! Again, best wishes

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2011-08-01 14:00:12 -0500 Report


Just wanted to say hello and to see if I could offer you some support from my perspective as a counselor. It is normal to experience denial when you are given a medical diagnosis. I think that this is especially true when diagnosed with a condition like diabetes in which the symptoms may or may not be so obvious. Nobody likes to hear that their life is going to change, that they will have to make lifestyle adjustments that they didn't anticpate and aren't looking forward to. So if you just can't quite believe that you have received a diabetes diagnosis, then you are certainly not alone.

As others have suggested, getting educated can help a lot, and so can working closely with your treatment team. You might be surprised at how much better you feel when you are on track with your treatment.

Looking forward to staying in touch with you!


kittenpurr1 2011-08-11 02:17:11 -0500 Report

Hi Gary, I was diagnosed this year, too. I already have nerve damage. It is hard to change the lifestyle- I still haven't learned all I am suppose to do. I only had 3 meetings - so that didn't cover alot, and my last meeting was the worse, b/c so many people were there, asking all kind of questions- so those 2 hours flew by, and they didn't really talk about the things that needed talking about.

Harlen 2011-08-01 13:48:01 -0500 Report

First you are a diabetic no ifs no ands and no butts you are !
If you just cut the carbs you eat you will do better
Best wishes

Cookie Roma
Cookie Roma 2011-08-01 12:50:00 -0500 Report

I was basically in denial for the first year after I was diagnosed. There's more to it than just cut sugar. Calk yourckical hospital and ask if they have a diabetic educator on staff. Talk to your doctor and let him/her know that you need help learning ti deal with this. If your doctor gives you ni wreak help FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR asap. Over the 2 years after diagnoses I changed doctors 4 times. I finally got a keeper.
A diabetes educator can give you a very clear picture of how you should eat in the most beneficial way. Also, Keep coming here an share with others. I can not over emphasize the benefit to you ti be able to talk to others who are or have been where you are!
Don't let this cause you to just freeze. Take it one step at a time. I will pray for you as well.

Cookie Roma
Cookie Roma 2011-08-01 12:50:00 -0500 Report

I was basically in denial for the first year after I was diagnosed. There's more to it than just cut sugar. Calk yourckical hospital and ask if they have a diabetic educator on staff. Talk to your doctor and let him/her know that you need help learning ti deal with this. If your doctor gives you ni wreak help FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR asap. Over the 2 years after diagnoses I changed doctors 4 times. I finally got a keeper.
A diabetes educator can give you a very clear picture of how you should eat in the most beneficial way. Also, Keep coming here an share with others. I can not over emphasize the benefit to you ti be able to talk to others who are or have been where you are!
Don't let this cause you to just freeze. Take it one step at a time. I will pray for you as well.

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