Got cramps? A final solution maybe?

dubyadd
By dubyadd Latest Reply 2011-07-25 22:59:48 -0500
Started 2011-07-24 22:54:12 -0500

Many people seem to have cramps, but it seems that a higher percentage of diabetics have them than the general population. I have had cramps in many different parts of my body since high school, 40 years before I was diagnosed with T2 10 years ago.
But since that time the cramps increased a lot. I am not talking here about the minor cramps one gets from being a weekend warrior in the yard or overdoing some sports activity. These are the cramps that are so deep and severe that you will make a pack with the devil to have them go away.
For those who want the short story the product I have found to completely eliminate this type of cramps is called "STOPS LEG & FOOT CRAMPS"…yes that's the name It is sold by "Caleb Treez Organic Farm" Glendale Ca. they have a web site to purchase and it is also sold on Amazon.
It is just awful tasting stuff. The first time I took it, I thought - no wonder it stops cramps- it is so awful you forget about your cramp. But humor aside, this stuff works! Heating pads, hot showers, advil, quinine, stretching all work but take 30 mins or more. Meantime you are in agony! This stuff ended my cramp in about 3 minutes. And they have instructions how to minimize the taste.
Now for the longer version. I have had severe cramping in all parts of my body since I was about 15. From jaw to elbow to wrist to back, side and stomach, to every muscle in my upper, lower legs, ankles, feet and toes. Many times I would have cramps in multiple areas at the same time, like calf and thigh in 1 leg and ankle in the other. Most of the time these cramps occurred at night, but they could happen anytime. If I was driving I would have to stop the car and get out and try to stretch them out. If at home I would drag my self into the shower and use hot, very hot water for 20 -30 minutes before relief came. And it got worse after I became diabetic.
I talked with every doctor, np and rn I came in contact with and they all had a different answers, exercise more or less more calcium, less calcium, more magnesium , less magnesium, the same with potassium, salt, and almost every vitamin supplement in the book. Only 1 doctor had a partial answer. She said drink 6-8 oz. of diet tonic water before bed. This I found to help at least somewhat. In fact 10 years later I am still drinking diet tonic water only now I drink 16-20 oz. in the evening. I also take 3-4 "leg Cramp" pills which i get at "puritan pride" a mail order vitamin company. These also contain quinine. But I still get cramps, most are not as severe as before and not as often, but i still get them.
Thus I now have a bottle of "STOPS LEG & FOOT CRAMPS" on my night stand just in case. In the last 2 months I have only had to use it 2 times and within 2-3 minutes the cramp was gone and did not return that night.
What have others used to minimize their cramps?


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RAINDANCER1950
RAINDANCER1950 2011-07-25 22:52:11 -0500 Report

I HAVE BEEN HAVING AWEFUL CRAMPS IN MY CALVES AND THIGHS…HURTS SO BAD…WAS UP THE REST OF THE NIGHT ! ALSO NOTICED…AT TIMES , SEEMED AS IF MY HEART WAS GOING TO THUMP RIGHT OUT OF MY CHEST…WENT FOR MY REGULAR 3 MO. CHECK UP…BLOOD WORK REVEALED…LOW POTASSIUM…IT CAUSED THE CRAMPS…AND THE HEART THUMPING…IT CAN TRIGGER A HEART ATTACK…IF IT STAYS TOO LOW, AS IT IS USED BY THE BODY , TO REGULATE HEART BEAT !!…THE MEDICATION, I TAKE FOR FLUID RETENTION… CAUSED POTASSIUM TO PASS FROM MY BODY, THROUGH URINE ! MANY DIURETIC S , CAN CAUSE THIS PROBLEM !

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-07-25 22:59:48 -0500 Report

You should tell your Dr about that ASAP. Ask him/her to switch you to a potassium-sparing diuretic. That was a problem my Jem had with her heart when she was alive. She had to take a lot of potassium and magnesium, another mineral vital to her heart and muscles. Also something affected by diuretics.

dubyadd
dubyadd 2011-07-25 14:34:53 -0500 Report

Here's an article I found about a year ago on cramps. It seems many diseases have cramps in their list of symptoms, and there are many triggers that cause cramps ,AND there is no one thing that will work for everyone so here it is:

Magic Muscle-Cramp Cure
08-19-10
After a long day of gardening last week, I awakened with an intense muscle cramp in my leg that was so painful I might have been worried — except that I knew what I could drink to make it go away (you won’t believe that I could it get down at 3 am — I’ll tell you what it was in a minute). But sometimes muscle cramps aren’t so easy to get rid of and, in fact, sometimes they are a sign of a serious illness. And, of course, not everyone knows about my magic cure… so I thought this was a topic you might like to know some more about.

Who Gets Muscle Cramps?

Muscle cramps are a common problem — medically speaking, a muscle cramp is a sudden, involuntary contraction of one or more muscles that can be very painful, sometimes leaving tenderness for up to 24 hours after the cramp subsides. Aging and overuse of the muscles are two common causes, but other triggers can include dehydration… low blood sugar… calcium, sodium and/or magnesium deficiency… underactive thyroid… kidney or liver dysfunction… peripheral vascular disease (which restricts blood flow to the legs)… nerve compression… Lou Gehrig’s disease (ALS)… brain tumors/cancer… multiple sclerosis… well, you get the picture.

What you need to know

To get some useful advice, I contacted Barry Wiese, DC, a board-certified chiropractic neurologist in private practice in Rochester, New York, whose specialty work with geriatric patients and background as a marathon runner have given him especially unique expertise on this topic. Cautioning that there is no surefire, works-every-time solution, he told me how to differentiate a run-of-the-mill (if excruciating) cramp from one that you must tell your doctor about.

Here’s a list of questions to ask yourself:

Are my cramps random? According to Dr. Wiese, a cramp that comes on suddenly and inexplicably is usually not a problem. Noting that the majority of random cramps are no big deal, he suggested that it’s fine to try the "old standby" cures, including eating a banana (for potassium)… drinking more water to counter dehydration… light stretching of the affected area… self-massage… and heat packs to relieve pain and tenderness.

Are my cramps becoming more frequent and/or following a pattern? Cramps that begin to establish themselves in a predictable pattern — such as at a particular time of day or when you walk — may be a worrisome sign that you should discuss with your doctor.

Did I do something that might explain this cramp? If you realize that you are getting cramps often, even predictably in certain situations, start a log of when they strike including time of day… what you’ve eaten… how long they last… how painful they are (consider a score between one and 10)… and what you were doing before and during the episode. Share this information with your doctor.

Should I see my doctor? With persistent or worsening muscle cramps, you need to see your doctor to discuss potential causes and treatments. Though muscle cramping represents abnormal function, it’s only rarely serious, Dr. Weise said. However, he pointed out that "many disease processes include cramping in their list of symptoms… and for many of those, the earlier you get treated, the better the outcome — so it pays to follow a conservative, cautious route until proven otherwise."

You’ll be asked about your medical history, and your doctor may suggest some tests, including blood work, to find the root cause. Treatment options could range from vitamin B supplementation… to prescription medications, such as diltiazem (a calcium-channel blocker) and baclofen (a potent muscle relaxant sometimes used to treat muscle spasms in patients with MS and ALS)… and possibly even quinine, the malaria treatment, though it’s used only in extreme cases because of the potential adverse side effects.

Kitchen Cures

Of course, you know already that my muscle cramp fell into the "random and not worrisome" category, painful as it was. So now I will tell you about my secret cure… pickle juice! (You could also just eat a pickle.) No, I’m not kidding, and you may be surprised to learn that Dr. Wiese didn’t even find it strange when I told him. I learned about pickle juice from my college field hockey coach, who suggested drinking it — and/or eating mustard — when players complained of muscle cramps. Both contain acetic acid, salts and other ingredients that help neutralize the compounds or electrolyte deficiencies that may cause cramps. Other helpful remedies you may be able to pull out of your kitchen cabinets include apple cider vinegar (mix two teaspoons with one teaspoon of honey into a glass of warm water), which works much like the pickle juice… and chamomile tea, which contains glycine, an amino acid that helps relieve muscle spasms.

Source(s):

Barry Wiese, DC, a board-certified chiropractic neurologist in private practice in Rochester, New York.

Pappy03
Pappy03 2011-07-25 01:20:10 -0500 Report

I to would like to thank you. I get legs cramps, especially in my thighs. once I had a cramp and tried to stand up to get some releif and stretch it out, only when I got up I fell in my RV and knocked myself out. Well the leg cramp stopped but my head hurt like the devil, plus a black eye. Thanks again, I will check out the website.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-07-24 23:53:55 -0500 Report

Thank you for sharing that Warren. I have been awakened by cramps and I am told that that is a symptom of approaching kidney disease. (it may not be for you since it can be symptomatic of many conditions) My kidney numbers confirm this. I had been on dialysis about 6 years ago and got severe cramps when they took too much water off of me at one time. It appears I'll need to return to dialysis treatment soon. I'll have to try this for those times I get cramps. Thank you again.

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