DMV Problem or Helpfulness with Diabetes

By shoulders Latest Reply 2013-05-31 11:22:55 -0500
Started 2011-07-13 23:51:35 -0500

The DMV can remove a Diabetics license by the way our Doctors fill out the forms. Or Stop you from getting your license if you are a young person with Diabetes. They are not allowed to come straight out and ask you if you are a diabetic. But, they(DMV) offer suggestions on the paperwork, as an example if you have like seizures or diabetes or… were you loose concussness. And if anyone chooses to notify the DMV, you could still loose your right to drive.

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Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2011-07-15 10:33:55 -0500 Report

My take is probably going to upset several people. I have chosen not to drive. I did try to learn. But due to poor depth perception felt I was unsafe. Sure I could probably have fooled the DMV and made it through the tests. But what about if a child suddnely was in front of me, or a grand parent or parent. Would I be safe. I felt no. I have had family, friends and strangers tell me just get the license so "in an emergency you would be able to drive". I also have frequent double vision. Which set of headlights is the right one. Which line is the correct one to follow on a busy highway. Would I be happy if I injured another person. I feel if there is a risk of falling asleep or going too low or any other medical problem interfering with the ability of a driver of a vehcle from maintaining control of their vehicle they should chose not to drive. So many stories have been in the news of people driving into buildings, crowds, etc. All because they have blacked out, have senile dementia, bad eye sight, diabetese, sleep apnea, etc. It is not much different than driving under the influence. They have not done something to have the medical condition, but they have chosen to drive with some type of limited control off their senses. I could not imagine living with the knowledge I chose the convience or driving over the safety of any other human being.

katcot2152 2013-04-20 23:45:16 -0500 Report

I have been driving for 45 years now and I have absolutely no depth perception. But I have learned to compensate. I also have an under developed optic nerve in one eye so my vision in that eye is really bad - my opthalmologist had explained to me, when I was in high school and old enough to understand, that he was only trying to preserve what little eyesight I have in that eye in case something happened to the other eye, that I would at least have some vision to get by. But if that ever happened, I could not drive anymore. So I hear what you are saying. In my case, the lack of depth perception is not really dangerous with me behind the wheel. I just allow a little more distance between me and the car in front of me. The eye that has poor vision hasn't prevented me from driving either. In my childhood I was more dangerous riding my tricycle and then my bike because I had to patch my good eye to try and strengthen the other eye. If I had to wear that eye patch after taking driver's ed. I would never have passed the eye exam and that right there would exclude me from getting my driver's license. BTW I have to wear trifocals now and still I am permitted to continue drive.


jayabee52 2011-07-15 10:53:15 -0500 Report

Your take on this subject is very rational and caring IMO. If you don't feel safe it is better to not drive than to drive. when I first started dialysis in 2006 I didn't drive for about 4 months for many of the same reasons you listed.

kittenpurr1 2011-07-14 17:59:50 -0500 Report

It's best to check your sugar before you drive. I was leaving the doctors office at 3 p.m., I was awaken by a man knocking on my window- telling me it was 5:30 p.m., I was confused, thought I had missed the appointment, then I remembered, I didn't. So, I had a 2.5 nap with the car running. I didn't have any signs at all. I was going to leave and get something to eat. The next week, I found out it was the tech. that woke me up, I would have in his position, went back inside, and took my sugar. The office closed at 5:30- so I wonder how long I would have stayed there like that, had he not woke me up. I also have sleep apnea, so I have slept in some crazy places- I feel asleep at the red light, once. But with the sleep apnea, most of the time, you can feel that coming on.

katcot2152 2013-04-20 23:57:00 -0500 Report

Sounds like narcolepsy - I have a friend who did that very same thing (fall asleep at red lights. But then she was put on medication and that seems to have helped keep it under control. Sleep apnea, on the other hand, is when you have moments where you stop breathing for a few seconds. One of the signs is if you snore when you sleep, but I have never heard of anybody falling asleep because of sleep apnea. On the contrary I have heard of people wake themselves up during the night because their snore was so loud.

kittenpurr1 2013-05-31 11:09:47 -0500 Report

Some people stop breathing so many times, and the oxygen levels drop so much, it makes us very tired, and we fall asleep, b/c it's our bodies telling us we are going to rest now.
How can sleep apnea affect
my driving?
â—¾Because sleep apnea affects your sleep, it also affects how you function during the day. Untreated sleep apnea can make it difficult for you to stay awake, to focus your eyes, to remain alert and to react quickly to driving situations. If you are very tired or find yourself falling asleep while at work or at home, you should not drive. It is unsafe for you and others on the road.
Ask your doctor, the state motor vehicle authority, or another knowledgeable source about the laws concerning sleep apnea and driving in your community. I have Sleep Apnea, have been on a C-Pap for years since 2008, and at times, when it wakes me up, and I check my blood pressure, it will be very low, then wait a few minutes and recheck, it's in the stroke range. Even awake at the doctor office, my oxygen level was 23%- I need some surgery on my nose. Sleep Apnea contributes to high blood pressure, too.

50Jewels 2011-07-14 20:24:36 -0500 Report

Wow, I had shingles last September (probably started with the diabetes then but just didn't know). I had to go into work for a mandatory meeting the day after I was diagnosed. I made sure I didn't take any of the pain medication for 18 hours before I had to drive. I only stayed for the meeting during which everyone sat on the opposite side of the room. On my way back home I felt so drained that I had to pull over into a parking lot and sleep. I slept about an hour then woke up and finished my drive home. I can relate to sleeping at red lights because just before I was diagnosed I could tell I was drifting off so I flipped my car into park and closed my eyes. The light had just changed and it is a long light. I could trust that if I really did sleep someone would honk. Now, I don't skip breakfast and I have done fine.

katcot2152 2013-04-21 00:03:41 -0500 Report

If you have had the chicken pox, the virus goes dormant in your body. When you are older, that virus may come out of remission and the end result is the Shingles. I don't think diabetes has anything to do with shingles. And those of you who have never had chicken pox, you will never get shingles. I understand the nerve pain can get really bad (I have had chicken pox, but knock on wood, I haven't had the shingles.

kittenpurr1 2011-07-14 20:52:35 -0500 Report

thanks so much. I have had 3 cases of shingles since March 6th, this year, and this is the worse case so far, if I can stay shingle free for 6 months, I can get the vaccine. It's expensive, but well worth it, because shingles can do some really bad harm to a person. These are almost cleared up. These were so bad, they gave me Demerol. I hate taking the meds for them -they give you such a bad headache. I am so glad I don't have to take those meds daily, like some people do, and those who take it daily are usually having to take it more often. So, that would be a lot of headache.

katcot2152 2013-04-21 00:08:33 -0500 Report

You have had shingles 3 times!!!!! You poor girl!!!! Once is bad enough!!! A neighbor was almost blinded by shingles (she got it all on her face, and it got extremely close to her eyes. The opthalmologist was very concerned and saw her on a daily basis for a while. I hope, after this bout of shingles, that you never get it again!! I will say some prayers for you!!!

kittenpurr1 2013-05-31 11:18:44 -0500 Report

Thank you. I have been lucky, I haven't got them, since the vaccine. The vaccine doesn't !00% men, I will never get them again. At times, my body will burn or have a burning feeling, and it's from the damage done by the Shingles. Plus, at times, it will be a lot of itching- they were on my back, so my back will itch intensely for a while. I have nerve medications, pain meds, it still happens.

50Jewels 2011-07-14 21:12:13 -0500 Report

Most pain meds make me throw up so I try to avoid them at all costs. The shingles were so painful though it was worth the nausea. Good luck on getting them to clear up. I ended up with the twice before I was through, about a month apart. The second case was not as bad. The first ones started in my eye and I woke up the morning of my daughters wedding with my eye swollen shut and when I did get it open I couldn't see clearly, so I had my son who was here for the wedding take me to the hospital at 4 am. They said I was young for getting them but I had just left my exhusband who had threatened to kill me so they chalked it up to stress. My photos at the wedding look like someone hit me in the eye.

kittenpurr1 2013-05-31 11:22:55 -0500 Report

I was young enough the insurance company wanted to block paying for the vaccine, but after having them so much, my doctor over rode them, b/c they are very dangerous, and very painful. Stress is kicker that adds to them. I hope you never ever get them again.

katcot2152 2013-04-21 00:10:51 -0500 Report

Did it impact your vision or do any permanent damage to your eye? Or were they able to clear it up soon enough that it didn't damage it?

shoulders 2011-07-14 17:55:18 -0500 Report


granniesophie 2011-07-17 06:39:40 -0500 Report

I did go to the right website and ordered the decals and keychain-the plate frame is too in your face, but the decals aren't a bad idea. I will let everyone know what thye look like for real!

jayabee52 2011-07-14 19:27:51 -0500 Report

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shoulders 2011-07-14 20:03:59 -0500 Report

Thanks for the correction. How are you doing with your diabetes? Take care of yourself.

jayabee52 2011-07-14 22:26:56 -0500 Report

I am on vacation, staying at my mom's. I am attempting to follow my low carb high protein eating plan, and mom has been trying to help me stay on it, but she does give me a lot of fruit, and I think it's been jacking up my BG levels. But it is good to see mom again. She's 81 and very heavy. Don't know how long we'll have her in this life.

I need to just cut back on the fruit and I think I'll be close to normal again without the use of diabetes meds of any kind. Thank you for asking.

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2011-07-15 10:12:43 -0500 Report

Maybe now you understand my every Tuesday Night fear of Mom (AKA The Cake Lady)!!
Aint it great to spemd time with dear old mom. I am so glad I moved back home last year and get to be part of Mom's weekly carb orgy. My mom is almost 81. Enoying every minute of the carb problems she presents me with.

jayabee52 2011-07-15 10:18:54 -0500 Report

well I cut back on the fruit last night and just kept to my eating plan. 113 fasting this morning. I was happy.

shoulders 2011-07-14 17:18:55 -0500 Report

Yes,it is against the law for the DMV to ask you IF YOU ARE A DIABETIC. So, they snake around the question by asking you if you have ever blacked out or lost concessness,Then they give you suggestions of illnesses that could cause it… Then all your problems start. The DMV will notify your physican about your Diabetes! And has to fell out a paper about your Diabetes. I thank God, since I did fill out the form and tell that I was a Diabetic, And my Doctor filled out the form super well. Don't have any thing on my licens at all. I thought the DMV would put it on my record that I am Diabetic, so if ever was stopped they would check that everything was alright.

mysticalrose53 2011-07-14 17:44:47 -0500 Report

Yes I agree with you ''shoulders'' what the DMV dont know wont hurt them…I did tell my employer I was a Diabetic but only for my saftey .That way I can go get a snack when I need it if it isnt my break time.Other than that its nobodys bussiness

Somoca 2011-07-16 21:00:17 -0500 Report

I agree on that. My boss gave me permission to have snacks but I do not so I do not have to draw attention to myself. We have an office where eating isn't suppose to happen and I do not want anybody in my medical business.

granniesophie 2011-07-14 10:22:50 -0500 Report

I watched an older gentleman renew his license-I was behind him in line-he couldn't see the eye chart to read it in the little machine, so the lady behind the counter recited the 20/20 line to him, he repeated it back, and viola, renewed license!! Only in Arizona!! Needless to say, I did not leave the DMV until I was quite sure he was long gone :)

granniesophie 2011-07-14 10:25:47 -0500 Report

And no, they will never know I'm a diabetic, it IS discrimination-I can take care of myself, and only want to kill stupid people, not anyone else!! Nothing to do with my diabetes at all.
Jolene, I am with you all the way :)

JoleneAL 2011-07-14 05:08:24 -0500 Report

That's why the DMV hasn't a clue I'm a diabetic. I think its discrimination. They let illegals drive in this country (US of A) and kill people all the time, yet they are going to prevent an "in control" diabetic from driving?

MrsCDogg 2011-07-14 05:27:32 -0500 Report

They also allow people who are well into their 80's and 90's drive when they really shouldn't. I had a friend who was epileptic and hadn't had a seizure in 4 years and still couldn't get her drivers license!