Sugar substitutes

By NurseEmma Latest Reply 2011-06-19 08:40:58 -0500
Started 2011-06-12 10:03:59 -0500

Hello, I'm new on the block. My doctor said I was not to substitute with any thing that"s not made from Stevia plant. He said that the other kinds lead to bad physical conditions. I researched the product called Truvia. It looks like sugar, it weighs like sugar and taste like sugar. What do you think about substitutes and which one do you think is best?

57 replies

Copperchef 2011-06-17 19:35:19 -0500 Report

I would lean toward finding a diabetic education class and getting some help from a diabetic dietary clinician. Most of them will tell you that it is what your body will tolerate. I have a culinary background, have been a type2 since last year. I still use sugar in my recipes, also some Truvia, raw honey and agave syrups. I avoid sugar alcohols as they are very hard on the human body and very reactive. Moderation, monitoring and common sense help me stay on track and yet have some things that I really enjoy.

jayabee52 2011-06-19 08:40:58 -0500 Report

actually the ONLY person who can tell what your body can tolerate is YOU, using your glucometer to test how YOUR body will react to what you're putting into it. The diabetic dietary clinician may be able to tell what many people with diabetes tend to do, but only your meter can tell you for sure.

Type1Lou 2011-06-16 18:15:30 -0500 Report

Truvia is a chemical alteration of stevia, a natural plant. If you read Suzy Cohen's book," Diabetes Without Drugs" you'll find she doesn't think much of any of the artificial sweeteners on the market, including Truvia and Splenda. Although I can't say I really liked her book, she presents some very good arguments against processed and chemically altered foods as being the source of many of today's health problems. Worth the read. Personally, I use Splenda without any problems.

nzingha 2011-06-15 18:07:25 -0500 Report

i dont touch the thing at all anymore.. my sugar comes from fruits…no where else and i have just conditioned my mind to deal with that…the mind.. its all about controlling the mind,,, the mind … and the body will follow…

Marytea 2011-06-15 10:39:15 -0500 Report

I have tried all of the sugar substitutes and none of them work for me at all. They all taste metallic even truvia. They also can induce diarrhea for me, too. I love my 1 cup of cafe du monde coffee in the morning and I just use a little real sugar in it and count the carbs.

NurseEmma 2011-06-15 15:20:56 -0500 Report

How's your BS doing with that? If you have high blood sugar levels do you reframe from using frank sugar?

Marytea 2011-06-15 16:49:51 -0500 Report

When diagnosed a month ago my bs was 189. My doctor said I could 1. control it with diet and exercise or 2. take 500mg of metformin and diet and exercise. I chose the 2nd option. She didn't suggest I test my blood at all. I do drink diet drinks, use splenda on cereal and to bake with, but my cafe du monde with a level teaspoon of sugar is just my one pure food pleasure. Will it really do a lot of harm? The stevia and others are just horrible in it. Thank you for asking me. It is nice to have you and so many people care.

NurseEmma 2011-06-15 17:02:39 -0500 Report

First question that comes to mind is: is your doctor a endocrinologist? How long has he been a doctor? Family practice doctors tend to not be as through with diabetic, not all but some. May I suggest getting a monitor and perhaps checking BS at least in the morning before you eat and before bedtime. Consequently exercise is part of a diabetics regimen Whether you do or do not take medicine by mouth or inject, always. walking, rowing and running. It seems diabetic have a high risk for heart attacks because plaque in vessels and lack of cardiac stimulation You don't have to kill yourself. My belief is and my doctor's advice is try to keep BS no higher than 150. Keep a journal of BS am/pm. Present the journal to your doctor. See if he wants you to go to BS specialist, endocrinologist. Find what sugar substitute suits your taste buds. Thanks for your welcome. I appreciate that.

jladytiger1979 2011-06-14 19:49:10 -0500 Report

I can understand. My body is not tolerable of most of them. Sugar alcohols give me severe diarrhea, aspartame gives me migraines, equal & sweet n low make me throw up and have a funny metallic taste in my mouth. I can use a liiiittle but of spends or I bloat up & I get diahrrea. I avoid then if I can. I try to use honey and the less o use of sugar & artificial sweeteners the more sensitive my taste becomes in not being it or for the very minimum.

NurseEmma 2011-06-14 20:42:52 -0500 Report

I hear it can bloat ya and cause diarrhea in some folks. My doctor says honey will run BS up. I don't know about all that.:>

jladytiger1979 2011-06-14 20:56:54 -0500 Report

Yrs it can so use it sparingly. However, it is middle of the road on the glycemic index. And is lower than sugar. I've heard agave nectar is good because of the fairly low glycemic index rating. I've never tried it because due to the popularity its just so expensive here!

NurseEmma 2011-06-15 09:13:56 -0500 Report

Isn't it the truth. There is a nurse I work with and she uses Agave syrup. I tried it and didn't like it. It seems messy too.

jladytiger1979 2011-06-15 09:38:10 -0500 Report

Yes! That's why I just try to avoid the while lot of em! I'm a super occasional splenda (tiny amounts) and honey user (also in tiny amounts). It is sooooo hard! Raised as a good ol southern girl it's a sin to not have sweet tea in your house! LOL! So sweet you can almost crunch on it!! LOL

NurseEmma 2011-06-15 09:41:21 -0500 Report

The southern thing I really understand. Ice Tea with a twist of lemon, really sweet. I live in the northern part of Alabama.

jladytiger1979 2011-06-15 11:36:07 -0500 Report

Also, my dentist recommended that I chew Xylitol gum for my teeth. It is supposed to MINIMALLY affect blood sugar. I experimented with it and noticed if I chew it the next day my number are higher!

Steam hammer
Steam hammer 2011-06-14 08:06:37 -0500 Report

That makes a lot of sense thanks for the info.

Luna Sol
Luna Sol 2011-06-14 14:43:42 -0500 Report

I heard that some diet sugars made from saccarine and asperthame have caused some people to have headaches and other problems. I use sugar with asperthame such as equal. I have no problems. When I was a child I use to use Sweet & low. My grandmother switched me to Equal after hearing Sweet & low could cause cancer. I don't know if it does, but I did work with a woman who was addicted to sweet & low. She had a minor memory problem and didn't contribute it to Sweet & low. After she stopped using it, her mind became clearer. She now suspects that the Sweet & low caused her to have a minor memory lapse. She said it only affected her by causing her to sometimes forget things. I don't know if the same thing could or has happened to others. Everyone reacts differently to diet sugar.

NurseEmma 2011-06-14 16:04:42 -0500 Report

Saccrine can cause bladder cancer. I like splenda and equal but after reading a serious article on the subject I'm noy sure.

Big dadda
Big dadda 2011-06-13 18:56:13 -0500 Report

I have used truvia now for about 6 months and like it alot, but I still can taste a difference between it and sugar

NurseEmma 2011-06-13 19:37:00 -0500 Report

It is real hard work. Remember to use good physical mechanics. This will save your back. Good luck in your quest.

PetiePal 2011-06-13 10:53:54 -0500 Report

I stick to Splenda these days since it's more "natural" than the others. Not enough testing has been done on Stevia but I've used it, Truvia and a few others. Equal I used to use but it doesn't hold up in hot drinks.

Cheryl*G 2011-06-13 15:49:07 -0500 Report

Splenda has side effects. Just to name a few toxic poisons, and severe diarrea. They had to flush my mom due to the toxins so her dr. told her not to use it and he does not recommend it to anyone. But the decision is yours. I have done a lot of research on splenda and other sweeteners.

rij061258 2011-06-13 02:13:44 -0500 Report

I use either equal or splenda. I can't use sweet & low. I'm allergic to sachrin. I have some samples of stevia and truvia but haven't tried them yet. I'm like Ray, I have some I like and know I have no problems with, so I just haven't felt the need to try any of the new ones.

jayabee52 2011-06-13 00:49:50 -0500 Report

Howdy NurseEmma! WELCOME to DC!
I am disabled but had worked as a CNA up until Dec 2005. I loved the work and would be still doing it if I could.

About sugar substitutes: I avoid sweetened things as a general rule now, but when I did use sugar substitutes I used to use SweetNLow. But my bride "Jem" couldn't stomach artificial sweeteners, so I researched Stevia and tried the products made from Stevia, PureVia and Truvia.

Both Truvia and PureVia are from fractions of the Stevia plant. The Truvia ingredients are rebiana, erythritol, and "natural flavors". Those of PureVia are rebaudioside A, erythritol & isomaltulose.

So I wonder if those 2 competing products may be truly called "natural"?

Please check out this article on the topic: It starts out a bit dry but becomes interesting toward the end.

I pray you can find something to satisfy your sweet tooth safely.

James Baker

NurseEmma 2011-06-13 12:17:21 -0500 Report

Cool CNA! And a newly wed. Thanks I love research. How long you been away from CNA position?

jayabee52 2011-06-14 04:06:35 -0500 Report

I had to give it up in Dec 2005 because I couldn't be relied upon to transfer patients from bed to chair. In 12 yrs of working as a CNA I hadn't dropped 1 patient. Dec 15 2005 I dropped my first patient because my balance was wacked out and my gait was messed up. That was my last day as a CNA because I didn't want to hurt the people I was supposed to help. I had thought I could perhaps get what was wrong corrected and come back to CNA work. (Was seriously considering going to school to get a RN) But what went wrong (3 TIAs) couldn't be fixed.

Then in Nov 2006 I got a kidney infection and had to go on dialysis. That ruled out any hope of coming back to the world of work.

I met Jem online in Nov 2007 and finally moved to CA in Mar 2009. Unfortunately Jem passed from this life in July 2010. So now I am a new widower too.

digitaldoorbell 2011-06-12 22:19:26 -0500 Report

I have tried several things too. I always come back to stevia and actually like it. So I think I will stay put using it. I did try Truvia too and comparatively it tastes good. Look on the internet for Truvia side effects, try it and then see what works best for you.

RAYT721 2011-06-12 13:28:30 -0500 Report

I use Sweet and Low. I tried Splenda but had some issues that I won't discuss. I assume that each doctor has his or her own opinions on what they recommend or not. In my case my doctor barely spoke past telling me the diagnosis. All of my experiences are based on my own research, trial and error. I did try another product (can't recall the name) but did not like it at all. Therefore I am done with the experimenting since I've found something I like and something that works. And I have not written off sugar completely from my diet either. I just make sure to count the carbs in my daily allowances and keep them to a minimum. From my research, carb is carb whether it's sugar or starch. Each will raise the body's glucose level the same so for me a potato with x carbs is the same as a butterfinger with x carbs. I just choose to make the most nutritional choices to get the most vitamins and minerals from my choices. I have decided with my food, as with my money, that I have an allowance and when it's gone, it's gone. There is no savings account … just an allowance!

NurseEmma 2011-06-12 13:47:17 -0500 Report

Don't ya just get tired of doctors not spending time with ya. That's what we pay that high dollar for them to listen and doctor us. I usually don't go very often and I usually make a list and won't let him leave until he address ever issue. The only reason I get to talk to my doctor he comes on my my Medical floor late at night (I work 12 hr. Midnights). All the nurses get to pick his brain. I like sweet-n-low also. Hard to change over but I'm trying. Thanks for your response. Have a blessed day.

RAYT721 2011-06-12 13:58:28 -0500 Report

My diagnosis just threw me for a loop. I'm a what??? There was no talk about getting a meter, about testing, about eating right, about support groups, or anything. I am glad that I had sense enough to google diabetes and find this place. I have learned so much about myself and about others and about the condition and complications. I believe that I have a pretty positive attitude and prefer to look at what I CAN do or have rather than what I CAN'T.

I totally agree with you about the list. That's great advice for everyone.

majikinfl 2011-06-14 18:35:13 -0500 Report

I agree…Hospital hit me hard with all this stuff on day one…never mentioned it again, let me go, no md appointment…all followup was up to me. New MD had no opinion on anything. Glad I too searched the internet, eventually found here and a few others to help me make better decisions. Thanks for in put. Like stevia but find it very expensive as I find it not very sweet hot or cold.

Teresa Rose
Teresa Rose 2011-06-12 22:01:06 -0500 Report

My doctors didn't tell me anything either except that I had diabetes type 2 & that was it. I had to start educating myself & that is how I ended up finding DC. I can't use splenda or equal, I'm allergic to both so I tried stevia. I like it in some things but not others. I don't like it in my coffee but suger free hot chocolate is pretty good in it. I only have one cup a day.

dmax32 2011-06-12 11:03:32 -0500 Report

I have always liked splenda but it isn't one made from the stevia plant! But, it is Atkin's diet approved!

AuntieM234 2011-06-14 19:32:56 -0500 Report

If you just notice, there are articles out there finding fault with most everything we consume. Also notice that when studiess are done, many times they are funded by a competitor of what is being studied. One of the so-called studies finding faults with Splenda was funded by a coalition of its competitors. If Splenda is so bad, why then have thousands of companies switched to it as the sweetener in their products? When doing our "research", we must remember that anyone can write anything on the internet. Just because its on the internet, doesn't make it truthful. Even I might be able to claim having done "extensive research" if one considers reading everything I can get my hands or eyes on to be reasearch. So, we must evaluate all the information we take in and decide for ourselves which we wish to use. For now, I've chosen to use Splenda. However, I am not really a "sweets" person (as jayabee52 said above, I usually avoid sweetened items). ;-) Mara

NurseEmma 2011-06-12 12:24:17 -0500 Report

I like splenda also but he said no no. I guess if ya go to a doctor you should listen to him. He said he had done extensive research on the substiitutes. It sure would be cheaper if I bought Splenda lol.

berrykins0 2011-06-12 14:57:15 -0500 Report

i bought that were made by a diatian and they use splenda in the recipes and i brought them to my diatian and she liked my books and said they wwere fine to use. she even
thought about buying the books her self.

dmax32 2011-06-12 12:31:16 -0500 Report

It is interesting to me I never asked my doctor about sugar substitutes.. I have been using splenda since before I was diagnosed diabetic.. I did not like Truvia when I tried it! I might have to ask next time I go to the doctor!

berrykins0 2011-06-12 14:52:25 -0500 Report

i have books that are from a diatian that uses splenda in recipes and i brought the books to my diatian she said the books were fine to use. she even thought about buying the books her self

Gimpalong 2011-06-13 03:57:16 -0500 Report

What are the names of the books that you are referring to? They would probably be useful for those of us who have diabetes. I've tried most of the substitute sweetners, but I don't know which ingredient it is, but all of them taste like metal to me. I might have to try steuvia and see how it tastes to me. I agree with Ray's comments. We all need to be researching what we can to find the best fit of foods and meds that work for each of us. We all react differently to products that are recommended by the doctors and nutritionists. Have a blessed week.

berrykins0 2011-06-13 07:38:53 -0500 Report

you have to type the word splenda in. you will see other splenda books come up with these 2 books. heres the 2 books i have marlene koch's 375 sensational splenda recipes and the other one is marlene koch eat what you love more the 300 incredible recipes.the two have are ones she made herself using splenda.she's nutrionist that made these books.the other ones are from splenda company.these recipes arelike ones that you would see in a betty crocker book.if you like to know what kind of recipes are in them let me know and i can reply agian and let you know. i got my books from walmart web site. that's the cheapest web to order from.

Gimpalong 2011-06-14 00:19:14 -0500 Report

Thank you so much for the information. I'll be sure to check out the site, and get back with you. Have a great week.

NurseEmma 2011-06-12 12:35:23 -0500 Report

Your right. Thanks for being so kind and answering me. Trivia dose have a different taste. However, I had to get use to sweet-n-low in the beginning and I did. The things we have to go through. lol

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