Depression along w/Diabetes

By Latest Reply 2011-05-25 09:04:26 -0500
Started 2011-05-18 19:20:13 -0500

Does anyone on this site suffer from depression due to the fact that you're a diabetic? I have been suffering from major depression since my A1C went from 11.3 all the way to a 16!! I'm a vegan, I eat no carbs, no fruit, nothing "illegal", but not only is my A1C extremely high, my bs when I wake up is over 600. (My mach. just says hi) I'm sick & tired of this. Can anyone relate to this? Can anyone give me any type of suggestion(s) of what I can do? I would really like to get over this.


27 replies

PetiePal
PetiePal 2011-05-25 09:04:26 -0500 Report

In the beginning a bit yes. I think more of my apprehension these days lies with having some ED issues and how that may factor into dating and a relationship again. Also letting my partner know that I'm a diabetic weighs on my mind. I'm not in a relationship now, but I'm seeing a girl and starting to get a little more serious so I want to bring it up soon. It's not something that REALLY impacts my life too greatly, but it still bothers me a little bit and makes me nervous.

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2011-05-24 09:23:23 -0500 Report

Hi,

So sorry you are going through this. Here is a link to a discussion that I posted awhile back. You might find something helpful here. Depression is treatable, and if you are experiencing symptoms of depression, then this would be an important time to reach out for help.

http://www.diabeticconnect.com/discussions/9451-still-not-feeling-it-maybe-it-s-time-to-ask-for-help

Don't go through ths alone.

And stay in touch with us.

Gary

ZannaSu
ZannaSu 2011-05-22 01:17:39 -0500 Report

Depression for diabetics is not always just an emotional response. A lot of the medications we use impact our overall body chemistry, and the higher levels of blood sugar change our overall body functioning levels and metabolism and that can cause depression, too. So not only are we dealing with all the frustrations of meds and doctors, and all the lifestyle changes, and denying ourselves stuff that we love to eat (and that it seems everyone else can have), BUT we also are dealing with the physical effects of the disease on energy levels, on brain chemistry, on internal organs, etc. which contribute to the big picture of depression with a capital "D". Don't be too hard on yourself for feeling frustrated and low. Managing depression can be step two, after you get the scores back down.

If your A1C is 16, then your blood sugars are not just hitting peaks but are high overall. I can only imagine how low your energy levels are right now. I would bet that you are bone-tired most of the time. I would repeat what Bubblelove says about seeing if you can have a real in-depth sit down chat with a dietician. You don't say if you are on insulin or not, but if not, talk to your doctor soon. Even if you are on insulin now, there may be a real need for some frequncy changes or increased meds until those numbers get back down. My highest A1C was 11.2 and I know how panicked I was to get it back down as fast as possible since it's not suppposed to be over 6-6.5 per my doctor, and he made sure I understood that I could be doing real damage to my internal organs. And I remember how awful I felt physically. All I wanted to do was sleep (and eat, of course —- always energy to eat —lol).

I find that my biggest challenge in eating healthy is not so much in what I eat, but how it's prepared and what quantities I eat at one time. The low-glycemic index helps me a lot. That's a listing of foods based on how high or low they place on a a scale of glucose accessibility. High items will more quickly and dramatically affect blood glucose scores, low ones take longer to metabolize and help blood sugars stay lower and a bit more level. One site that has a simple version of the list is: http://www.glycemicedge.com/glycemic-index-ch... but if you search the web with "glycemic index" you'll find lots of sites with a lot better explanations than I can give.

There are also some recipes for diabetic vegans out there. Check the recipes link on this site (it's on the left) and I can share one website for that as well: http://diabeticgourmet.com/recipes/Vegetarian... Having some specifically diabetic prepared recipes might help, but really watch the portions that each recipe is supposed to be. (I'm using smaller dinner plates to offset the smaller portion sizes. Boy was I in shock when I found out what was considered a "single serving" for some of my favorites.)

Hang in there! What's gone up (blood sugar scores) can and will come down again! When it does, you are going to start feeling a whole world better.

I'm rooting for you.

ZannaSu

2011-05-22 22:10:25 -0500 Report

ZannaSu~~ I have read some of those recipes but I cannot eat any of them. I'm a complete vegan, who does not consume any type of carbs, fruit or any "illegal" foods. So that's why I cannot figure out why my A1C as well as my BG is off the chart. I thank you sincerely ZannaSu for your wonderful post. I'll go back & try some of those recipes & try to "veganize" them!

Bubbelove
Bubbelove 2011-05-21 15:11:30 -0500 Report

I do have depression, especially when I do not like my counts, blood pressure, and weight. Other things cause me depression, so I cannot tell if it is the diabetes or not. Things are financially tough right now, so it's hard to tell. I'm about 6 pounds overweight and have trouble getting it down. excercise is difficult because my sciatica is kicking up and I cannot walk. Hey - just realized no wonder I'm depressed!!! Also, the other day I just ate breakfast and nothing else until 3:00 p.m. when I got home from work. I tested my blood and it was 171, I then had something to eat at it went to 122. My belief is that you do have to eat a certain number of carbs - and you have to eat. Maybe being a vegan is really not the healthiest thing for you. You should check with a dietician.
Also, does anyone out there know what this SENSA is that they keep advertising? Anyone try it? I'm thinking about it, but not really sure that it should be done.
Bubbelove

Somoca
Somoca 2011-05-21 12:59:45 -0500 Report

The depression showed up on my front door when the diagnosis came and it tries to make itself comfortable,( like in-laws who don't know how to go home after the first week of their "visit"); thats why it is so important to talk with people who know what you are going through. Sometimes people w/o diabetes do not understand that you can't just snap out- of- it. You are not a mean person or bad person, you are a diabetic who is trying to deal with this issue.

Hang in there.

Steam hammer
Steam hammer 2011-05-20 10:53:19 -0500 Report

Yes depression does come with diabetes when my sugar is low I feel like crap but when my sugar is high I get irreterable and real depressed.

Purple Princess
Purple Princess 2011-05-20 04:59:14 -0500 Report

I've had depression to. Its a vicious cycle. I am grossly overweight too. You lose weight you feel great then you slip-up and your down in the dumps. The same with blood sugars. I used to be 6.4 then I went up to 9.4. Did I feel lousy. But I've learned to start fresh each day and try to forget yesterday. Do the best you can do with the help with your Dr. and you'll get back to where you want to be. Good Luck!

Tender Tips
Tender Tips 2011-05-19 23:33:44 -0500 Report

Dear Annalease: Seems like you have already gotten lots of good advice here. I would just add that maybe your doctor could refer you to a nutritionist or diabetic educator to help you tweak your diet to make sure you are getting all the nutrients you need. And of course pursuing counseling would be good too. Remember, you are so much more than your diabetes-hoping you can find some joy in other areas of your life as you deal with this condition. I am keeping you in my thoughts-take care.

melaniebecerra
melaniebecerra 2011-05-19 23:21:00 -0500 Report

hmm i am just wondering what is a vegan? and if you dont eat carbs and fruit what do you eat to make your sugar so high?

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2011-05-20 01:01:00 -0500 Report

Melaniebecerra a vegan is someone that doesn't eat any meat, poultry, eggs or fish. No flesh of any kind.They only eat vegetables and products made from veggies like soy milk, or vegan mayonase etc. I have a niece who is a vegan. Me, I'm not a vegan but I do love my veggies. I know this isn't the exact deffinition but it is close. I hope it helps.

Jes P
Jes P 2011-05-19 22:15:27 -0500 Report

All the time! I hate it with a passion. Sometimes it is so easy to say what is this all for. All the endless checking and measuring, because you know it is not going to end. I know my depression is not as bad when my sugars are closer to normal, because I don't feel as tired or put out. I also talk to a therapist. It doesn't mean your crazy. It just someone you can talk to outside of famlly and friends. I give you a different prospective on things and you know they have nothing to gain by it, but helping deal better with problems life throws at you. Sometimes I feel like my famiily and friends are just saying things to say something. Therapy helps and keeping mind and body buzzy on other things other the fact that I have Diabetes.
Good luck. It will get better with time and effort.
Jes P

ston3xc
ston3xc 2011-05-19 18:07:15 -0500 Report

Get to the dr and talk about insulin. For heaven's sake, there is no harm in starting the talk with your dr. When you need insulin, it just means that the pancreas has stopped producing enough for your needs. The oral medications provide little "kicks" to get the pancreas to produce more insulin, but what happens when you flog a dead horse? Nothing! Same thing with a pancreas that doesn't produce enough insulin. Going on insulin is NOT the end of the world! I've been on various kinds of insulin since 1989 and I'm still doing OK, a little slower because of age, but my bs is under control and i have no worries cocerning my bs. Insurance will take care of the cost, but if you don't have insurance there are websites online that might set you up. Some people on this site know what they are, they'll set you up with links. I, personally am on medicaid, and for a long time I had to scrounge around to get the insulin I needed. Now I'm on disability because of my health and I can get mine for a nominal fee. But it sounds to me that getting on insulin will be the best thing, go see a doctor!!!!

2011-05-19 21:44:13 -0500 Report

ston3xc~~ I cannot take any form of synthetic insulin. My body cannot handle it. So my dr is looking for some type of oral medication that he can give me. But to no avail thus far.

dietcherry
dietcherry 2011-05-19 21:51:58 -0500 Report

Gosh I sure am sorry you are having to suffer like this! I dont have any suggestions for you but I hope you Dr comes up with something soon! Lots of Love!

dietcherry
dietcherry 2011-05-19 22:52:11 -0500 Report

I just re-read your post and I guess I missed it the first time but I see youre vegan; whats your protein source? We need protein to help stabilize our blood sugar and if you have a deficit maybe adding some could help you. I dont like meat much because I have a problem with blood and bones so I use protein powder to make up for the lack in my diet. What do you think?

RAYT721
RAYT721 2011-05-19 05:21:00 -0500 Report

Depression with diabetes (or any disease) is quite common. Please know that you are not alone. Knowing that your a1c level is as high as it is, your doctor should be in the loop on it and should be able to offer some sort of treatment plan to help you lower it. On the depression side, you may wish to consult your doctor on a referral to a local counseling program or by contacting your local United Way Agencies. Sometimes medication is necessary. It is nice that you have a friendly meter that says "HI" to you but that can be damaging to your mind, body and soul. In the situation(s) you are discussing here, I would highly recommend seeking out professional resources that can help control your glucose, emotions and health. Are you eating "right?" … nutrition is a very important component for control of both glucose and emotion. Is there anything that I can do???

Armourer
Armourer 2011-05-19 01:16:48 -0500 Report

First off, depression will raise your BG. Various meds will raise one's BG. I had depression problems before diabetes, just now it has an extra dose. I'm a vegetarian, not vegan, and have a problem with protein. Two of the three proteins I eat you won't (eggs & cheese), but have more protein in your diet and higher fiber. Perhaps eat a little protein just before bed, I said "little." This might help. Good luck!

2011-05-19 22:06:41 -0500 Report

Thanks Armourer~~ The only protein that I consume is tofu. And tofu is only good when you cook it with something. Otherwise it tastes really bland.

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2011-05-20 01:10:21 -0500 Report

Annelease there are a lot of vegetables out there that are a good protein source, beans for example. Check your local library for info on veggies with proteins or google it on your computer. But before changeing your diet check with your Dr. Also see if he can recommend a Diabetic Councelor, or Dietician.

Armourer
Armourer 2011-05-20 00:46:04 -0500 Report

Gotcha', I use Quinua a lot and it is the same thing, very bland. Where I really have a problem with this is affording the ingredients to go in it.

Trudie Ann
Trudie Ann 2011-05-20 01:12:56 -0500 Report

Armourer yes Quinua is very good, in fact it is said to be one of the super foods. That is a very good suggestion.

Harlen
Harlen 2011-05-18 19:33:40 -0500 Report

I thing a lot of us go thru it when DX it is a lot of work that we never had to do before we would just eat what we liked now we got to think of it all the time ??
Best wishes
Harlen

ravenmoon33
ravenmoon33 2011-05-18 19:29:38 -0500 Report

I can't say i know how you feel because i was depressed before i found out i was diabetic but i can say i know how hard it is dealing with it before you get it under control. A good relationship with your doctor helps and I am no doctor but have you discussed and insulin pump with yours? It could help keep your levels more stable and maybe help with those morning highs. It will get better. I'm praying/cheering for you. If you wanna talk, add me as a friend or drop me a message anytime.

2011-05-18 19:59:47 -0500 Report

ravenmoon33~~ I was diagnosed w/ diabetes 16 yrs ago, but this is the 1st time it has ever gotten this high!!