Cures and questions

By blindbluesmama Latest Reply 2011-05-10 11:25:38 -0500
Started 2011-05-10 09:37:36 -0500

I told you I was looking up cures. Now before anybody gets their panties in a twist… I *know* there is no real cure for diabetes other than treatment… I know I have to eat right and exercise and all that stuff. I know also that there is research. One study suggests that some mice were given diabetes. Record scratch… first question, how do you give something diabetes? Isn't that komething you git? Not that's given? That's just weird. The study goes on to say that the mice were then injected with cap-say-sen. I spelled that phonetically because I'm not sure how to spell it. I could have looked it up but I was lazy. So, miraculously, the diabetes was cured. The mice didn't have it any more, and some of them have stayed that way for four mohths. Now I'm not discrediting anyone who's done studies at a university and had good results, but that study sounds strange. My other question is that if that really worked, couldn't we all just take large doses of capsaysen and have it at least help somewhat? Rewind, back to my other question? If you can give an animal diabetes, would it be possible to give it to humans, inject it in the milk and other stuff that people love to eat? Diabetes found in ice cream… sounds like a big conspiracy theory. I am *not* a comspiracy person but it does make you wonder. Mostly though it just makes me think that that particular study is a bunch of bs. Still wonder if capsaysin can help at all with diabetes. Now the most obvious answer is eat more peppers. I can't eat a lot of hot stuff. It tastes good but too strong. I suppose the best way to test this is to find out the percentage of latin Americans with diabetes. Prefferably those who grew up in that kind of culture of eating lots of hot spicy foods. I hope I'm not being offensive or anything. I don't intend to. But I'm just curious if there's a link between either taking lots of capsaysin and easing of some of the diabetes symptoms… or eating lots of pepper laced foods. Lots of jalapinos and chilis. Are there foods that contain capsaysin that are not spicy? Again I'm not really sure the validity of a study that says they "gave" mice diabetes… but I suppose anything is possible. Please tell me your thoughts about capsaysen combined with eating healthy and exercising.

2 replies

kdroberts 2011-05-10 10:32:27 -0500 Report

The big issues is that humans are not mice. I have read about the capsaicin trials and they are interesting. One thing that might not have been in the article you saw was they have tried the same thing in humans but it didn't work the same way as it did in mice, it lead to more glucose fluctuations. The chemicals in it are being researched as a type 1 treatment but I don't know how that's going.

I don't really know how they give diabetes to mice, I think for type 2 they may 'break' them with steroids and generic engineering/breeding. For type 1 studies I think they just remove or disable the pancreas. I'm not sure on either of those so don't quote me on that. I do know that most things that work on mice don't do the same thing in humans.

blindbluesmama 2011-05-10 11:25:38 -0500 Report

Thanks. I have heard that while capsaysin doesn't have the curative effect in humans it seems to sometimes help. I figure it can't hurt. Thanks for the info by the way. One thing is that what works for one may not work for another. Well, ok, my whole life is revolving around this. I am offically done reading about, talking about and mostly thinking about diabetes. I haven't been feeling too chipper so i'm going to go read then later I will exercise or something. But seriously I'm not posting any more today. Unless of course, someone replies to me then if it's really good I might reply back. But the rest of the day is going to be doing stuff that doesn't have to do with the big d word except for checking my sugar after lunch.