Is this common, anyone else have/had this problem?

JenS12
By JenS12 Latest Reply 2011-05-15 23:23:02 -0500
Started 2011-05-10 03:28:28 -0500

I was diagnosed approx Feb 20/22 of this year that I have Type 2 Diabetes. Was told very recently at my last dr visit that its a mild case (thank goodness). I dont take insulin yet (nor do I plan to). I manage my diabetes through medication (glimipiride), diet and exercise (30ish mins/day 4-5 days/wk on stationary bike at home). So far it hasnt been too hard to modify my lifestyle changes. For example, the foods I have to eat now have been for the most part pretty tasty, but I was wondering if anyone else has this problem.The problems I see myself facing now are that I like to snack after dinner, Im not real hungry in the morning although I know I have to eat breakfast (sometimes I tend to eat that at lunch, being late of course), having control of my portions (am battling both obesity and diabetes) and not putting a lot of energy/effort in my biking lately (for the past few wks). Its not because Im not motivated, I just havent had the energy. Does anyone else have/had these issues? I recently lost a good job I had due to unfortunate circumstance and am limited to what I can do for a living due to a back problem. Are my issues normal being Im new to this? My dietician said Ive had diabetes for at least a year, maybe 2.


23 replies

jbmccollum
jbmccollum 2011-05-15 23:07:11 -0500 Report

I have been diagnosed for about 8 years now. I still dont manage my diabetes the way I should. I feel you on the snacking thing. I feel I snack all day. I dont eat right and my numbers are always high. I have tried every diet in the book. I have even considered surgery. But I stop and think now I can do this and I will for about 2 to 3 days then I fall off the wagon.. I am addicted to food. I know I am. I have ask for help but no one seems to take me seriously. Guess they will when I have a stroke or heart attack. This scares the hell out of me. I am depressed. I have 4 different back problems with my spine. I have high blood pressure. I am 33 years old and applying for disability bc my doctors say I cant work. Told me I have the spine of a 60 year old. and most of it due to the fact that I have been fat all my life..just makes me sad to think that this is what my life has come down too. I have a 11 and 13 year old boys that depend on me. what is next for me??

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-05-15 23:23:02 -0500 Report

What kind of things are you eating & drinking, jbm?

Are you aware of sister sites to DC? There are a lot of sites, but the ones you may find of interest is Obesityconnect, and Backpainconnect. In black band at top of this page there is "Visit another community" click on that and select one that appeals to you. Use your sign in information from DC to log into the new site. You can join as many sites as you like that way.

OH and BTW WELCOME to DC!

Tell us what you are consuming, and perhaps we can suggest some tweaks or exchanges which may help you manage your diabetes better.

Praying God's richest blessings on you and yours jbm!

James Baker

Jackie375
Jackie375 2011-05-15 19:16:16 -0500 Report

I don't have the issue of having recently lost my job but when I was diagnosed it was along with other issues that kept me from doing a lot of things i wanted to do and I then gained weight. I lost at first but have gained all back and then some. i can't exercise due to back problems(osteoarthritis). I too could use some suggestions. I will help you by being there for you if I can. I will listen and talk to you.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-05-11 20:25:39 -0500 Report

MILDLY DIABETIC!?!..Like Mildly Pregnant?…or Mildly dead?! LOL! Learn everything you can about YOUR diabetes…then share that knowledge with your Dr.!

MoeGig
MoeGig 2011-05-11 06:30:20 -0500 Report

You might check to see if you thyroid has stopped working. The main symptom is being really tired all the time and weight gain. If that's the case, it's an easy fix with a pill a day. The thyroid gland, pancreas, etc…all part of the endocrine system.

Jackie375
Jackie375 2011-05-15 19:17:41 -0500 Report

They keep telling me there is nothing wrong with my thyroid but I suffer the symptoms you mentioned so I guess I will talk to my doctor again. Thank you!!

tabby9146
tabby9146 2011-05-10 21:38:19 -0500 Report

glad you are doing well. Funny, my doctor said, on the second visit, that I had mild diabetes. There is no such thing as mild. Many on here told me that, it's true. But it can be caught early, yours was, like mine, glad for that. It can be controlled better, maybe quicker perhaps when it is caught early…but it is progressive, my doctor cautioned me about that, of course I knw that already, and they told us in class, several times. Someday, most likely, your body will make less and less insulin and you will at least need to get on pills, that is, if you are able to get off the ones you are on now, and the way you are going, I bet you can get off the medicine. I did. But I was told it may only be a few years before I have to get on pills again. I know many diabetics who've had it at least 20 years, many about 30 and they are still on pills, no insulin. So it doesn't mean you will definitely go to insulin someday, but it isn'lt ikely that it can be controlled for the rest of a person's life, when diagnosed, relatively young, with diet and exercise.

tabby9146
tabby9146 2011-05-10 21:39:17 -0500 Report

when Iwas first diagnosed, I asked why I had lower energy, they said because any time you decrease carbs so drastically like i did, it happens. They said it would get better, and it did. Keep up the good work you are doing

srezler1985
srezler1985 2011-05-10 22:20:05 -0500 Report

I had more energy when they had me cut back my carbs, but I am having so much trouble finding foods I can eat that don't taste horrible. I am only pre-diabetic, but I find that it's a very hard journey either way :)

tabby9146
tabby9146 2011-05-11 09:23:01 -0500 Report

yes it is, either way. I found that when I wasn't consuming all that sugar, and I wasn't drinking caffeine as much anymore, I had to really get used to that, my body was just tiring easier.

JenS12
JenS12 2011-05-11 00:16:43 -0500 Report

Im sorry youre having trouble finding tasty foods. Thank goodness everything for the most part that Ive had to change is tasty, I just dont know what to eat anymore, Im getting so confused between dealing with trying to lose this weight and dealing with the diabetes, eating the right foods and the right amounts, when to eat them…ugh!

kdroberts
kdroberts 2011-05-10 10:46:55 -0500 Report

Your doctor needs a little slap, there isn't really a spectrum for diabetes, you either have it or you don't.

I agree with James that the energy issue could be from your eating patterns but your sleeping patterns also wont help. It's especially important to realize that when you are doing activity, eating is critical. I know it kind of goes against everything logical but eating more before you workout will result in more energy, more weight loss and lower blood sugar. It's a fine line though and you may need to tweak what you eat. Just use your blood sugar meter to see what different foods do to your blood sugar when exercising. A routine is something you decide on. When you are working you have a forced one but not working gives you a wonderful opportunity to create a routine that works perfectly for you.

JenS12
JenS12 2011-05-10 11:26:25 -0500 Report

So no such thing as a mild case huh? Ok, makes sense. I guess thats like saying, "I have a little cancer", you either have that or you dont (not to compare the 2).

As far as my eating patterns, Im still trying to figure out what is good to eat that Ill like and how much of it to eat, depending on whether its breakfast, lunch or dinner or even a snack. I think I got the breakfast routine down ok (basically consisting of a cup of healthy cold cereal and piece of fruit and/or cott chs or slice of whole wheat toast), I just gotta eat probably by like 930 at the latest, even if Im not hungry. I read that lunch should be the main meal (Diabetic Living mag). I always thought that was breakfast. My lunch usually consists of a whole wheat sandwich of either cold cuts (fat free mayo) or pb & j (reduced fat pb & sugar free jam) and healthy chips. Then for dinner, I try to eat healthy. I know I need to incorporate some type of fruit and veg in every meal which I havent been doing so much. I love banannas, but cant eat them at every meal either. Im dealing with 2 battles- obesity and diabetes. If Im missing anything, which Im sure I am, please let me know.

Just like you said, I always thought you exercise 1st, then like a 1/2 hr later you eat. Thats not true? I realize you need to fuel so you have energy, but if I exercise after I eat, I feel like Im just burning off what I ate. When I exercise 1st, I feel Im burning fat off my body (and my former dietician said to eat after also- is she incorrect?) Please help clarify. Diabetes is confusing enough w/o extra confusion. Thanks.

northerngal
northerngal 2011-05-10 14:54:03 -0500 Report

You can't chose what your body burns for energy. It takes whats available and every study says NOT to try cardiovascular type exercise on an empty stomach. If you find that you are excessively tired after even mild exercise, you need to have your heart checked. I was always in very good condition and I went for a 35 mile bike ride one day and had a heart attack that night. It was almost the last one I ever took and I usually rode 3000 or more miles each year. In a northern state with only a few months available to ride. Afterwards, I realized that strenuous exercise had been leaving me very wiped out. I didn't have risk factors or high blood pressure, just diabetes. We'd like to keep you around for a while, so if anything I typed rings a bell, please make sure to get checked. I survived only because I was so fit. FYI I find that small meal throughout the day works best to keep things in control. It gives you consistent energy throughout the day and avoids the bs ups and downs. Using a pump and love it.

JenS12
JenS12 2011-05-10 15:03:55 -0500 Report

Im still learning obviously and sometimes mistaken what a 'small meal' actually means being new to diabetes. This may be a silly question, but would a protein bar and/or glucerna shake be considered a small meal or do you mean actual food? Sorry if I sound ignorant, Im just trying to learn and get it right.

northerngal
northerngal 2011-05-10 15:28:33 -0500 Report

The biggest issue is the amount of carbs you are consuming. A protein bar or a shake would definately fit "small meal". I've had it for almost 40 yrs and I know what the "dark ages" were like. No questions are silly except the ones you don't ask. Its surprising how few Drs explain things like that. I've had a couple very good dieticians and I find them much more able to discuss the myriad questions that everyone has. I also tell it like I see it (not always advisable), but always had unusual hours and kept much more fit than average. I'm a picky eater, which in this case is an advantage. But a lot of the stuff they'd recommend, I'd think "Are you serious"? I'm honest about what I eat and document bs readings and bolus dose a minimum of 4 times a day. Its the only way to maintain good control. It still has had serious effects on me, but thats the only things we can control. This is a pretty good site. Don't see too many off the wall ideas.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2011-05-10 11:44:35 -0500 Report

It's complicated without diabetes, even more so with diabetes. The short answer is you need to eat before and after. The chances are that when exercising you won't be burning any fat at all since it's the very last energy source to be used. You will alter your metabolism and when you add in controlled eating your body will store less fat and start 'releasing' un-needed fat. The exercise part itself is more of a tool to enable fat burning rather than a direct way. If you only eat after you exercise your body will need to replenish what it had to release and after a while will start to store a little more as backup. I think it's something like after 45-60 minutes of moderate/high exercise non-diabetics start to burn fat but up to then it's all glucose and stored glucose. The problem for diabetics is that you don't want your body to release it's stored glucose because it won't do it right! I don't think your dietitian was incorrect, more like she was only looking at one aspect of things. There is a book called The Diabetic Athlete that may help you understand the mechanics of exercising and diabetes.

Your food choices in general may also need to be addressed. What is considered healthy for the general population may be very unhealthy for a diabetic, or healthy in a very controlled amount. Cold cereal, fruit, wholewheat bread, etc all fall into that. Carbs will raise blood sugar and all of those contain carbs, some in significant amounts. While whole grain bread may be healthier than wonder bread it isn't flat out healthy. A slice may be anywhere from 7g-25+g of carb. It's important to see the serving size and carb amounts and then work that into how your body can handle carbs. Again, it's trial and error with your glucose meter.

JenS12
JenS12 2011-05-10 13:15:57 -0500 Report

Wow this is even more confusing than I thought. Too bad Im not rich so I can afford my own dietician.

Ill check out the book you suggested. I also saw an episode a few weeks ago on dlife on tv where they said bread, even whole grain, is a no-no. They didnt even go down the aisle! My dietician said to get the whole grain though. See why Im getting confused? Remember though, Im fighting 2 different battles- obesity and diabetes. Im still trying to figure out the labeling, what is too much of a certain category etc. I know we're supposed to look at the whole picture with carbs (all 3 listings), but I still am unclear as to what is too much so to avoid it. I started to eat pita bread instead of whole wheat to substitute, but theres so much more I just dont get. My dietician recommended Special K cereal thats not sweet and for snacks that Ill eat, Special K protein bars.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-05-10 05:09:58 -0500 Report

Howdy JenS!
Perhaps your lack of energy is from your eating patterns. Perhaps spread your carb allotment over 5 or 6 small meals a day. You will always have new energy coming every 3 hours or so.

Are you aware of the sister sites to DC? There's Obesity connect, and Back pain connect, which are two more of many. In the black band at the top of click "Visit another community" sign in to any of the communities which interest you by using your log in information from DC. I am in both obesity connect and back pain connect communities, as well as in 4 or 5 more. Look me up when you come and friend me.

Your issues are VERY normal JenS

Blessings to you and yours

James

JenS12
JenS12 2011-05-10 10:32:58 -0500 Report

Thanks James, Ill check them out. I just find myself tired a lot (am tired right now typing this, but I went to sleep very very late last night and have to stop doing that). I need to modify my sleep patterns but I like to stay up later. I need to go to bed earlier so I can get up at a reasonable time each day. It was easier to do that when I had a steady schedule with my job. I had a routine going and incorporated my exercise well in that. Now I have no routine and its hard to get up early if its not for work, you know?

Cookie Roma
Cookie Roma 2011-05-10 12:42:17 -0500 Report

Jen. I understand the tired issue. I've had a insomnia problem for about tfe past 19 years. I'm such a hard headed person that it was about 10 years into this that I finally faced the fact that this way of sleeping was my "real" sleeping patternm, not just a temporary annoyance . So energy is usually a problem and I just have to force myself to di things.

JenS12
JenS12 2011-05-11 00:22:50 -0500 Report

Wow Cookie. I need to develop better sleeping patterns again, since I no longer have my routine :-(. I hope I get another job soon so I can incorporate my new lifestyle better again. I know I have more flexibility cause of no restrictions now, but I need structure in my life. Ill figure it out.