i am new to my own diabetes and need support and tips on my sugars

By kasey1001 Latest Reply 2011-09-12 02:10:41 -0500
Started 2011-05-01 03:20:16 -0500

I have recently been diagnosed with diabetes. I have had family that has it and seen the horrendous things that it can do when my sugar spikes in the 400's it really scares me i eat right and my sugars are still outta control my bf found this site on a game we are both playing so i thought id give it a shot. i am on 70/30 insulin 2xs a day and right now i take 36 28 and still outta wack. I am tryig to do everything the dr tells me and still im stressed about the in between spikes. i have been doing zumba and walking to try and help lower it. I have alot of stress right now with a baaaad divorce from a wife beater and he is giving my kids a sister in sept. so i read i should rest more bc it can rise my sugars. but either way its still the same HELP!!!

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robertoj 2011-09-11 01:12:47 -0500 Report

Stress is very bad for diabetics. Testing is an important tool and you should not become distressed when the numbers are high. It takes awhile to identify the things that cause your blood glucose to be high. It also takes time to find out what treatment is best for you. You are doing some excellent things to change so keep it up. Remember to love yourself; having gone through an abusive relationship you may have self esteem issues to deal with. The DC community is here to offer support if you need to vent or get advice. God bless.

jamie75 2011-05-02 17:49:44 -0500 Report

Kasey, I'm new here so be patient with me. I was diagnosed as Type 2 and Hypothyroidism in October 2010, so doing double duty of controling my health. I have learned to love vegetables more, eat more nuts, whole grain breads if I eat bread, walk everyday even when the weather is crummy. Have loved to enjoy a rainy day walk. But most of all I have faith! I went to a diabetic health class, learned a little, but mostly teaching myself, and asking the Dr.'s lots of questions to the point they want to run out of the room. I am on one of the same medecine's but I believe your combo may need to be changed so you don't sleep too much. I am just happy there are people here to connect with. I myself am at a point where I have stopped losing weight, but my numbers are declining. Last A1C was 6.1 from 8.5. So I know if you stick with doing the good things it does work.

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2011-05-01 22:36:26 -0500 Report

Hey Kasey,

I am not a physician but just wanted to check in and say hi and that I am glad you are here with us on Diabetic Connect. Sounds like you have been through a lot!

You're right, stress can have a major impact on health. I hope you are getting a lot of suppot right now, that you have people in your life who care about you and are good listeners. Have you talked to a counselor? Are you in a support group? Just watching out for you

Stay in touch with us. You are in the middle of a community of friends!


Kirla 2011-05-01 17:31:10 -0500 Report

This is what helped me.

Feb 2009 I was diagnosed with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. Started to eat a salad every day at supper. Also started to eat lots of low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, cucumbers, spinach, pickles and sauerkraut. Started to drink 8+ glasses of water every day.

I then bought a meter and started to test my blood sugar before and after each meal. At first I was testing 2 hours after each meal and when my numbers dropped a lot I started testing 1 hour after meals. I was testing 5-7 times a day. I cut back or eliminated foods that spiked my blood sugar more than 50 points after eating.

By testing I found that foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices, milk and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar. Some people can cut back on these foods and some people like me have to stop eating them.

After about 6-8 weeks my blood sugar readings were almost normal levels. After 7 weeks I quit all meds and my numbers continued to get better and better.

I found by reducing and eliminating high carb starchy foods helped me a lot. By adding small amounts of chicken, beef, pork or a hard boiled egg to my meals helped reduce blood sugar spikes also.

Good luck

LouellaMarie 2011-09-11 00:44:44 -0500 Report

I am new to being a diabetic, and I am having trouble finding ENOUGH carbs to eat! I keep going low if I don't get enough and they said to eat between 45 to 60 carbs per meal, so I've been eating lots and lots of breads, and I have to search out carbs, potatoes and rice and more and more bread! Oh I don't like it, I'm gaining weight, but If I don't then I go way low! I never thought it would be like this, I thought I would be trying to cut out carbs! Louella

jayabee52 2011-09-11 00:58:48 -0500 Report

Howdy Louella! WELCOME to DC!

Sounds like you are possibly in a pre diabetic state where your pancreas is on "overdrive" before it burns itself out. My bride Jem said she had that too when she was first Dx'd as being a Person with diabetes.

Are you taking any medication for your diabetes?

LouellaMarie 2011-09-11 01:10:11 -0500 Report

Oh, yes, I was put into the hospitall 3 weeks ago! spent 4 days and my blood sugar was over 600! So, no pre about it, I am full fledged diabetic they told me. My eyesight was blurry from sugar attatching to the retina, that scared me! I am now on pills, two kinds, metformin and glipizide and I have to give myself one shot of insulin at night! Geeee, a month ago I didn't even know I had it, but I felt bad, and I knew something was wrong. Thanks for talking to me! Louella

Kirla 2011-09-11 10:01:25 -0500 Report

If your having problems going low, maybe you no longer need the insulin. I would talk with my doctor and tell him what’s going on and ask if maybe a change in meds or treatment is needed. Things change and if your doctor isn’t willing to change or modify your meds or treatment plan then maybe you might need a second opinion.

Going low all the time and having to eat lots of high carb starchy foods and gaining weight is not right in my opinion. I believe we, as the patients have to take control and demand a plan that works for them. Some doctors try and use the same plan for everyone because it worked for a few people they believe it will work for everyone. Just remember were all different and one plan fixes all doesn’t always work.

Good luck

LouellaMarie 2011-09-12 02:10:41 -0500 Report

I know your right, I don't like feeling full all day, having to eat all that bread and stuff, so I don't crash, one day my bs was 39! I have good news though, tomorrow is my first class, I have 4 of them this week all on diabetic education! Thanks for you advice and I will certainly get to the bottom of it. One person told me its usually the glipizide that is the culprit. Hopefully it will all work out soon, thanks again for taking the time to help me out with some thoughts! Louella

jayabee52 2011-09-11 01:16:47 -0500 Report

No problem Louella! What you describe sounds like your pancreas is getting ready to shut down. That is rough on your body the constant switching between highs and lowd.

Praying your body settles down and you can more easily control your BG levels


besther414 2011-09-10 23:03:20 -0500 Report

Hi, this might be a stupid question but here goes anyways. When a person is trying to find out if a certain food is causing a spike in their blood sugar, should they just eat that certain food and then a hour or so later check their blood sugar? What is considered a spike?

Kirla 2011-09-11 09:50:06 -0500 Report

When first diagnosed I tested 2 hours after eating it helped me realize how what I ate was doing to my blood sugar. At first I tried to keep the spike under 50 points, than after awhile I tried to get it as close to the before meal numbers as possible. Then after several months I was doing real good, I was wondering just how high my blood sugar went. I read somewhere that testing your peaks can help keep your blood sugar under control even better than the 2 hour.

I read that most people will peak after eating at about 1 hour so for a while I tested one hour after eating. By adjusting the serving size and eliminating some foods I was able to keep my blood sugar under 140 most of the time. Matter of fact for about a year or so my blood sugar never went over 110 unless I made a mistake and ate something or ate more than I should of. Now I recommend people test there peaks. By testing my peaks I was able to take better control and have been doing fine for over 2 ½ years now.

To find when you peak you just start resting about 20-30 minutes after eating and then every 10-15 minutes until it starts to drop. When it drops you have an approximate time for when you peak for that particular food or meal. I try and keep my after meal spikes under 30 points. Most of the time I succeed. Once you know when you approximately peak you can always fine tune it by just before you think you peaked and then every 5 minutes or so until it drops.

I used to think it was about 1 hour for all my meals. Then one day at lunch I tested about 30 minutes after eating. I was shocked to read a 180. At lunch I found my blood sugar was going from about 90 to 180 and back down to about 80-90 all in less than 1 hour. That’s when I decided to test all my meals. I now test 1¼ hours after breakfast, 25 minutes after lunch and about 1 hour after supper.

I rarely test just one food. Most of the time I test my meals. I found by reducing or eliminating starchy carbs and sometimes adding a hard boiled egg or leftover chicken, turkey, fish, beef or pork to my meals also helps with blood sugar spikes. Some people say to add a little fat or protein to your meals will help keep blood sugar spikes down. Its all a large experiment. I have found by testing and trying different combinations of foods works real good for me. But most of the time I eat lots of low carb vegetables with a small amount of meat or hard boiled egg works great for me.

In the morning is the worst time of day for me. I found that when I first wake up, I test my blood sugar and drink a protein shake first thing. Then for a mid morning snack I can eat some sunflower seeds or peanuts. I used to drink some tea but now will have a cup of coffee with splenda and a low carb creamer.

Well when and how you test is up to you. There is no right way or wrong way unless you are only testing once or twice a day. I have used several different methods and each one has helped me to control my blood sugar.

Good luck

besther414 2011-09-11 15:15:16 -0500 Report

Thank you Kevin!! A very interesting read!! My BS is stiill very high, but it's coming down everyday thanks to the new medicine i'm on (tradjenta) and diet and exercise)

jayabee52 2011-09-11 00:53:32 -0500 Report

Howdy Carole

The only "stupid " question here is a sincere question which is not asked.

A spike is a term that is used when your BG numbers go up very rapidly.

This is how I test how a food or drink interacts with my personal metabolism: What I do is to take a BG reading before I test a food. That is my baseline reading. I determine what a "serving" of a particular food is using either foodpicker.org (http://foodpicker.org/) or nutrition data.com (http://nutritiondata.self.com/) eat a recommended portion of that food. Then 2 hrs lafter my first bite I take a "postpramdial" reading. That will tell me how much that particular portion of food has raised my BG levels over my baseline readings. If it raises my BG less than 50 pts, I may eat that portion without much trouble. If it raises my BG over 50 then I need decide whether it is too much over 50 or not and I may want to retest it with a lower portion size. If it is closer to a 100 pts raise then I usually decide to avoid that food altogether.

I then put a page in my 3 ring binder with that food on it, and record the baseline, the portion conumed and the postprandial results, and my decisions made, whether to retest with a lower portion, and then results of that test, or if I decided to avoid that food altogether.

I do that so I remember what I've tested and what my decisions were, so I don't have to test again needlessly.

That way I have a book of what works for ME and my metabllism specifically.

You can do that too, I believe

Praying God's richest blessings on you and yours


headkeep 2011-05-01 11:14:33 -0500 Report

Everyone here is in agreement. Stress can affect you with both highs and lows! Where ever you can find ways to reduce or eliminate stress then do so. An example would be driving in heavy traffic causes stress. Find times where their is less traffic. For years, where ever I worked, starting time was at 8:00 and I'd be there at 6:00. Lots less traffic. Plus I could get so much work done with absolutely no interruptions.
Spikes in BS is quite normal. My doc told me that she knows when someone is making the numbers up. How to fight it? Be proactive. Obtain a sliding scale from your doc and check your numbers frequently, then react! But, you must be careful not to over-react! If your insurance covers it, discuss an insulin pump with your doc. They can be programmed to prevent you from over doing it! The key is continually checking your BS.
I have had type 1 since 1960. I'm using a paradigm minimed from Medtronic. I've been on pump therapy since 1996 and it has given me so much freedom. A1C is in the 6.3 neighborhood. Check it out.

RAYT721 2011-05-01 07:38:31 -0500 Report

Ah, stress!!! I would check with your doctor on getting you to a counselor who may or may not prescribe medication that can help during this rough time. There's no doubt you have a lot of your mind right now and while exercise can help you avoid thinking about some things, it cannot cure the problems and your needing to discuss your fears and successes from your new life. Surely there are support groups around that can help you team up with others in similar situations physically and emotionally. You are here for a reason, kiddo! If there's anything I can do or say, won't you add me as a friend and drop a line anytime. I don't have all of the answers but when I offer myself as a friend, I genuinely mean it. There's no need to go through all of this alone. We are here for you.

jayabee52 2011-05-01 04:02:09 -0500 Report

Howdy Kasey! WELCOME to DC! I pray you find what you need here. We're a family of caring people who walk the walk of trying to control our Diabetes ("DM").

While we cannot substitute for professional medical advice, we can and often do make suggestions regarding how we control our DM. We know DM is not a one-size-fits-all condition, so what are offered are suggestions which you can take or leave. But there are so many helpful people here that something might make sense and work for you.

You say you "eat right". No disrespect intended, but could you describe what you mean by eating right?

When I was first diagnosed ("Dx'd") I thought I ate right because I was eating light. I thought eating a lot of rice cakes was eating "right" As it turned out I was eating too many carbohydrates ("carbs") and eating too much of what I was eating. I was getting fatter and fatter, which increased my insulin resistance. So I THOUGHT I was eating right, because I avoided cakes and cookies and switched to diet sodas, but my whole eating plan needed an extreme makeover.

For me right now I am experementing with controlling my Blood Glucose numbers ("BG#s") with a restrictive eating plan (don't like the word "diet") and some exercise. But what I do may be a bit restrictive for you. I had been having BG#s between 88 and 119 regularly for almost 3 weeks without insulin. I had been on insulin now since 2006. I know DM is there waiting for me to slip because when I do slip a bit the BG#s rise to about 130 or so. Not dangerous, but it concerns me now to get that high. I want to see how long I can keep this up.

I have sent you a friend request, please accept it so we can email back and forth if needed.

One suggestion: I do answer questions by email, but I recommend you post any questions in a new discussion. That way you have available to you thousands of eyes and thousands of experiences to draw from to pick and choose to try or not as the case may be.

Blessings to you and yours Kasey!
James Baker

diabetesfree 2011-05-01 03:49:02 -0500 Report

Well, telling you "not to stress out" would probably be a bit insulting, considering the circumstances. It sounds like you are off to a good start with aerobic exercise though. If possible, try not to do any exercise routine within about two hours of going to bed, or it could negatively affect your sleep,which you definitely need right now.

How high is your own blood sugar getting now? I have had spikes of over 600, so I know all about how bad it can get. One thing that not many people think about until it is too late is your water/fluid intake. Both diabetes and exercise can leave you dehydrated, and being dehydrated will definitely make your diabetes worse. While there is lots of debate on exactly how much water an individual should drink each day, you are likely best off drinking as much as you feel comfortable with. You are much more apt to be dehydrated than you are to get sick from drinking too much water. You should probably look into using some sort of sugar free sports drink after exercise that contains at least some sodium and potassium, which you typically lose after exercise.

Other than that, just eat as healthy as you possibly can, get as much sleep as possible, exercise regularly and keep up with regular Doctor's visits. It can take awhile for your body to adjust to insulin and "level out". Just give it some time. Take care.


kasey1001 2011-05-01 04:02:12 -0500 Report

i hear stop freaking out all the time especially from non dibetics but stress does hurt my bloodsugar ALOT i do dringk like gatorade and stuff like that and i am like my grandfather carrying the 4 oz cup of something everywhere I go. Its just soooo confusing when they tell me exersize..wait dont exersize if you are stressed then it will make u spike.ugh I know that this didnt happen in a day and im going to have to get used to it but there is so much information out there I get about 12 hrs of sleep a day beiing as i am an online student and with some of the meds im on for PTSD i can get sleepy some days so rest is definately not an issue lol i slept most of today bc i had a hell of a week. my bf says im catching upon my naps lol. thats y im up late now thoes late afternoon naps do it to me. sometimes i get scared to go to bed when my sugar is so high bc my gpa fell asleep on a high and went into a 3 day coma so those nights i don't sleep too good and i sit and play crackhead with my meter checking it all the time to make sure the shot has helped it go down so i can sleep lol. too much info when im allready tring to pack 3 courses in there lol i get a lil lost sometimes
thank you for responding

pixsidust 2011-05-01 14:35:20 -0500 Report

Gatorade and different juice drinks can throw us all off. They are packed with Carbs and sugar. I think you named your own culprit!

Welcome here and I am sorry for your circumstances.

kasey1001 2011-05-01 04:11:14 -0500 Report

i eat real breakfast eggs some protien and total or special k or yougurt. i have always eaten 5 small meals a day 3 normal meals and 2 snacks i eat saald and fruit alot of the time with barely any dressing on it for lunch and a quartered plate for dinner i have been doing this most of my 32 yrs bc i have so many diabetics in my family I have always been on a dibetic meal plan lol it was just easier for the entire fam to do it. i ate very little sweets. i was a cherry coke junkie but made sure I drank plenty of water and milk and juice but i had to have at least 1 20 oz a day lol but still caught the bug and thats the worst part now what i have always been on a good healthy food regimine and its still not working

diabetesfree 2011-05-01 14:09:23 -0500 Report

I'm not positive, but I think that even milk has significant sugar content. It should say on the label. I know that it usually causes my own blood sugar to spike when I have it with cereal or oatmeal.

Good job on staying hydrated and getting enough rest. It took about a month after I started taking insulin for my blood glucose levels to become stable, so I wouldn't worry if it does not do the trick immediately. The best course for me has been to stay on a certain dosage of long acting insulin and give it a while to stabilize. Then, I can fine tune it from there.

Good luck!

kasey1001 2011-05-01 14:16:09 -0500 Report

i have 1/3rd a cup skim milk in my cereal it doessnt have much sugar but soy and almond milk make me sick to my stomach