Are you taking the wrong medication?

sexyswamprat
By sexyswamprat Latest Reply 2013-04-26 06:05:19 -0500
Started 2008-10-08 14:28:34 -0500

I just alittle curious to see how many people think they may be taking the wrong diabetes medication. As some may know my endo told me that I may be on the wrong medcation for being insulin resistant. I may have never known had I not switched doctors. My readings are good so there is no reason for my pcp to think I on the wrong med. Except for the fact that I have pcos and I am insulin resistant(not something that I have hidden from my doctor either). I had no idea that glipized caused weight gain in some patients. I guess sometimes I just take it for granted that after years of medical school doctors know everything. Are you sure that you are taking the right medication even though you have good numbers?


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Langerm
Langerm 2012-11-25 23:48:26 -0600 Report

I wonder that myself. I'm type 2, with PCOS, so I'm supposed to be insulin resistant, right? But my doc put me on Humalog and Levemir. I don't know how that's supposed to work. I don't know if there was any evidence that my pancreas wasn't producing enough insulin…?

Patty0057
Patty0057 2012-08-13 07:32:27 -0500 Report

Great reply Mary! You are in control. Many MD's managing diabetic patients are NOT certified on this specialty so you may actually have more current information than they do.
When I was first diagnosed my doc wasn't even going to have me self test. I had to tell him I needed a prescription for testing supplies! So knowledge really is power. Never stop learning & self advocating.

Gwen Morten
Gwen Morten 2012-08-19 15:56:02 -0500 Report

I think I'm on the wrong meds
as well! I take metformin 1000mg x2 aday and glipizide 5mg with my largest meal. My metformin cause loose bowels even if I take a half of a pill! So I stopped taking it and uped my glipizide to two pills 2-3x aday. I don't have insurance right now so I'm self medicating.

mary, the diabetes lady
mary, the diabetes lady 2012-06-25 10:10:32 -0500 Report

We teach classes on how we beat diabetes. My husband came off of 43 units of insulin in 2003 and has never gone back, he also came off of neurontin for pain of the severe neuropathy in both his feet. His neuropathy was so bad in 2002 that I told my kids that in 6 months I would be pushing dad around a wheelchair and I meant it. He could not walk 75 feet! He came off of Neurontin in 2004 and has never gone back. And he walked in 2 5K races and last month walked at Disney World from 8:30 a.m. until 11:30 p.m. and never had an issue with his feet!!! He came off of diuretics in 2007 and never has gone back. He lost 80 pounds in 2003 and another 20 pounds in 2011 for a total loss of 100 pounds. He has looked and felt great since 2003!

One thing I learned and we stress in our classes is that you are in charge of your own health. You can not put the responsibility on your doctor — this disease of diabetes is yours and yours alone. You control it. Believe it or not - it's true.

You need to question everything your doctor tells you. Not because your doctor is incompetent or doesn't care - they care very much about your health - but you live with you! You are the one who experiences the affects of your diabetes. You KNOW what you feel and you KNOW what you eat!

The PCOS you have puts an added burden on you. You need to bring that condition into your calculations when adjusting your meds and your diet. And don't think I mean that YOU should simply control your meds without consulting your doctor. Every time my husband came off a medication it was with his doctors approval. We did our homework and we told the doctor what we thought — the doctor usually agreed with us.

One word of caution about Glipizide. That medication stimulates your beta cells to produce more insulin. Over time you can actually burn out your beta cells using this medication. There are other meds that can help you - check with your doctor.

You need to be a proactive partner with your doctor in your healthcare. Learn all you can about your disease and then ask, ask, ask your doctor. And, expect an answer that you can agree with and understand fully!

Good luck to you and God bless!

manapua72
manapua72 2013-04-26 06:05:19 -0500 Report

I was on that med and I'm not sure if that's what caused it but my pancreas did stop producing insulin … Insulin dependent now …

Dan360
Dan360 2012-11-19 19:46:23 -0600 Report

When you say you beat diabetes what exactly do you mean. Too much self assurance can create problems. I believe a certain amount of acceptance is necessary to appropriately deal with diabetes. It is not all about beating the condition. Not everyone can effectively shoot for the goal of no meds.

maclover1524
maclover1524 2012-11-20 21:23:08 -0600 Report

Dan360
Thanks for your question on what I mean when I say we beat diabetes. You are so right that too much self assurance can create problems. Our position is not so much self assurance as it is self-responsibility. As I stated in my post of June 25th, "One thing I learned and we stress in our classes is that you are in charge of your own health. You can not put the responsibility on your doctor — this disease of diabetes is yours and yours alone. You control it. Believe it or not - it's true."

I respectfully disagree with your statement, "It is not all about beating the condition." In my opinion (after 10 years of study and research on diabetes, and presenting our program to hundreds of people and seeing the awesome changes in the health and lives of these peoples), it IS ALL about beating the condition and reversing any reversible complications.

Diabetes that is being over-medicated and please note I did say "over-medicated" is diabetes that escalates to become advanced diabetes and brings along with it all the complications - neuropathies, rentinopathy, heart disease, gastroparesis, nephropathy, renal failure, amputations and, and, and.

Doctors do their best to keep diabetics alive and free from complications. Medication does not improve diabetes - it keeps the patient alive but not well. If you are not proactively working on "beating the condition" you will succumb to it eventually.

Beating diabetes means being free of suffering the horrible complications of diabetes. Beating diabetes means you are in control and not the diabetes. Beating diabetes means you are no longer irritable, depressed and angry because of low blood sugar swings. Beating diabetes means enjoying life again!

I respectfully would also like to ask where you read in my post of June 25th, that I said that the goal was to eliminate all meds? Your statement: Not everyone can effectively shoot for the goal of no meds." does not reflect my position on beating diabetes. I urge people to " Learn all you can about your disease and then ask, ask, ask your doctor. And, expect an answer that you can agree with and understand fully!" No where in my post do I even allude to a "goal of no meds." In my post, I express that my husband was able to come off numerous meds because we were able to control his blood sugars thru diet and exercise instead of through medications.

We were able to control his diabetes because in 2003 he made the decision (after 20 years of diabetes) to take responsibility for his disease. He decided that it was up to him to control his diabetes. That decision coupled with really actually KNOWING WHAT TO DO and then doing it has made all the difference in his life, my life, the lives of our children, grandchildren, and friends.

I wish I could send you to our web site to see the before and after photos of my husband. I can't do that because I do not want to disrespect the rules of Diabetic Connect.

We are in control of our lives - the only person you can change is you. I am happy my husband made the change. I am happy so many people who have attended our classes have made the change. No one should suffer the horrible effects of diabetes.

As Dr. Richard Bernstein, "Diabetes Solution" says, "Diabetics are entitle to the same blood sugars as non-diabetics" He is my hero!

Dan360
Dan360 2012-11-27 09:44:54 -0600 Report

It may be that in practice we are on the same page. I am not a stickler for detail so I will agree that your take and my take are different in detail but similar in outcome. There are people who believe they need to always be in control of the situation whatever it is. In conversation they want to do the steering to arrive at the destination they propose. I am not like that. I will gladly relinquish control when I think it is appropriate. It is similar to giving and receiving. To give makes some people feel they are in control and that is a primary reason to give. To be a gracious receiver is also an attribute worth nurturing.

In your post you certainly did not say that the goal is necessarily to eliminate all meds but that would be my goal if I believed that I was the soul owner of my condition. Why would I settle for anything less. So I have to admit to myself that I am not the sole owner of my condition. I have to deal with a condition that came upon me due to no fault of my own. I was not overweight and I paid attention to diet and other health matters. During my life I have obtained knowledge that helps me cope with diabetes. I am not the author of that knowledge and so it was not an act of will that presented me with that knowledge. It certainly was not an act of my will that I have access to the meds I need to help control my diabetes.

I hope I have not confused the situation.

CJ55
CJ55 2012-06-21 02:08:59 -0500 Report

Hello. I am new to Diabetic Connect. T2 myself. It is a tough road. A lot of trial and error to determine the right medicine to take. actos did me in with an over 50 lb weight gain in a small amount of time. Also, metformin didn' t work. At one point i was taking 2 oral meds, amaryl & metformin with injections of Humolog & Lantus and stll have high bs. Finally 2 months ago I went to a new doctor and was taken off everything and I only use U-500 insulin, have had great bs. I also feel better. I have heard bad things about Actos & weight gain, also an ongoing law suit against Actos regarding bladder cancer. I myself do what the drs. Tell me, but sometimes you just have to listen to yourself and say hey, something isn't right here and go with your gut feeling. I had to after 7 years of being T2 insulin resistant.

Dumahslady
Dumahslady 2012-06-26 20:31:13 -0500 Report

i am new to this site! i have known i am a diabetic for 9yrs now; i will be 49 on 8/1. i am wondering if my Janumet 50/1000 twice a day is helping me still?! i am supposed to be talkin 25u Lantus at bedtime, i stopped takin this abt a mth ago my bs werent coming down n not going much higher… confusing… my dr watches my meds to not have weight gain; as she says cant have this as a diabetic… I will be seeing a new dr tomorrow bcs my dr is at a different branch now… My triglicretes? R high, being back on my meds is helping… I am a stented heart patient x's 2yrs… I feel as if i am struggling n not getting any where or making a difference… I refuse to give up or quit i want to live!! I was doing wonderful with my bs n lost 20#'s then bcs of a job switch i went nearly 4mths wo most of my meds even heart meds… I went downhill n am now striving to work myself back up! Im back on meds… Had a couple stays n hospital n april n the mth out of work… I just want to live n get better!! Dr put me on gabapentin 300mg 1tab 3x's a day but took em at bedtime; this is for diabetic neuropathy n my arms/hands bcs of tingling n arms n hands… No tests have been done to determine this just goin on symptoms… I didnt refill script bcs i think its more like xtra sore neck/shoulder muscles n not the other… I dont want to just settle n take a med that i may not need! I take enough pills already! Thanks for letting me vent!!!

CJ55
CJ55 2012-06-28 07:58:35 -0500 Report

No problem. I am very new here and have vented also. It all gets so confusing to me. The best thing to do about meds is to find a good doctor and talk to him / her. It seems like all 4 different insulins I have taken, also Amaryl, and metformin made me gain weight. just Amaryl made me gain 50 lbs in 5 months. Several other ppl as well I know had the same thing happen to them. Good luck.

forsakes alive
forsakes alive 2012-06-26 22:14:59 -0500 Report

I certainly hope the new Doc will be able to do the proper tests needed,to determine exactly which state of the neuropathy.pain your experiencing. 1 of the tests I had done was with electronic stimulation.The Doc told me I had a high tolerance for the pain I endure,do to walking withing the town I live. The actual food store is about 8 miles distance. I walk slow do to shin splints occuring all the time. I have to actually rest after the fact for a minimum of 5 to 6 hours. I dont take any form of prescribed meds for it. I have been using natural foods and suppliments to ease the neuropathy ,though I can feel the difference it helps.to ease the pain.

Anonymous
Anonymous 2008-10-09 04:03:36 -0500 Report

I am lucky because when my Dr wants to change medicines he will give me a months worth of samples to see if it works before I have to spend the money for it. Like my Byetta he had a weeks worth of samples and the needles to try. I did, I got violently ill. so we knew that would not work. And my blood pressure medicine is new and he has plently of samples. My insurance would not pay for it so I get a months supply at a time and have been for 6 months. Now we have proof it works so Insurance is finnally going to pay for it. I like having a new age doctor that is willing to try things before writing a old stand by prescirption. Most of my meds are working by doing this trial and error system.

vgarrison
vgarrison 2008-10-09 04:18:53 -0500 Report

That is wonderful that you have a doctor that actually listens to you, and takes your needs into consideration!!!

Vicki

kdroberts
kdroberts 2008-10-09 00:52:30 -0500 Report

I have been on the wrong meds, but I put my theory to the doctor and did an experiment that backed up the theory. I took actos and I didn't think it was helping because I didn't believe I was insulin resistant. After 3 months off the drug and no change in numbers, theory proved.

The wrong medication is kind of a tricky thing to find out. You need information from many sources and over a period of time. Just thinking you are on the wrong medication isn't really a good reason, you need something to back it up. My reason was my insulin levels are very low and when I calculated my probable level of insulin resistance (HDL/triglycerides ratio) it was non existent. Another example. If you have a blood test and your insulin levels are high and your doctor puts you on an insulin producing medication then you should question the logic behind it.

In the case of the original poster, glipizide wouldn't have been the first choice I would have made if I was a doctor. Metformin would be first and then, if needed, actos or avandia but with a watchful eye on any weight gain.

sexyswamprat
sexyswamprat 2008-10-09 02:32:43 -0500 Report

After doing a lot of reading it seems to me that one of those would have been a better choice. I never leave any of my medical history out when talking to a doctor and that I have pcos was hidden from him. It just makes sad to realize that in all honesty my doctor truely was not listening to me. But I am going to take your advice and do better research on all my meds, especially those that are about to be perscribed to me in a couple weeks.

vgarrison
vgarrison 2008-10-09 03:41:50 -0500 Report

I never used to question a prescription that a doctor gave me…I used to think, hey he went to years and years of med school for this so I don't have to check on it. I have since learned how wrong I was. Now I always read up on all my new meds, just in case. I want to know what can happen to my body if I take a new med.

Debe,

My father in law is also on prednazone (sp?) he is only 5'2" and now he weights 145 for him that is huge…all because of the prednazone…good luck with that…

Vicki

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2008-10-09 15:07:01 -0500 Report

Vicki, I put on 20-25 pounds . I look like I put on 50. I have the balloon face, but my upper body got big. My legs are skinny.

Bluebutterfly
Bluebutterfly 2008-10-08 22:06:29 -0500 Report

Yes i think I may be on the wrong medication. My pcp had me on actos and my endo switched me to Januvia. At first Januvia worked great but I do believe I am having a reaction to it now. I will know after today I hope. I will be seeing my pcp.

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2008-10-08 14:37:22 -0500 Report

I have been taken nexium for GERD and My friend just showed me an article that nexium and other drugs in that category make you gain weight. I sure don't want to put on a lot of weight and would like to stop this drug, but it helps. What do I do? The prednisone put 20-25 pounds on me. I sure don't want another one too. Insulin also puts weight on. I try to keep my BG under control so I don't have to increase it. I hope we can try to deal with this and explain to our MD's and see if there is a way to control all this weight gain through medications.

arsmithsr
arsmithsr 2012-07-24 14:59:15 -0500 Report

prednisone will also spike blood sugar and can cause Diabeties due to it's affect on Beta cells you eally shouldn't be taking a steroid like prednisone with a very good reason. Most especially long term.

sexyswamprat
sexyswamprat 2008-10-08 14:45:28 -0500 Report

Doesn't it make you mad that we put our lives and trust in the hands of some doctors that are truely not listening to us? It's super fustrating. Weight gain is as big a issue and "health hazard" as diabetes is. I am hoping when my endo gets all my blood tests and scans back that she can get me on the right meds and help with my weight gain.

Debe Pendice
Debe Pendice 2008-10-08 22:38:49 -0500 Report

It really does make me mad. Of course my MD comes back with are you worried about your weight or your health. Well, you no in a woman mind its my weight. I do want to be healthy but don't want to be fat over a medication. I know I did put some weight on with the prednison. I can't quick that because of my transplant. But boy, If I could I stop it tommorow. I feel for you like I feel for myself. I focus everything around my weight, everyday. I think about it 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. My family gets furious with me. But knowing you I know you get where I'm coming from. Keep in touch..Debe

vgarrison
vgarrison 2008-10-09 03:25:37 -0500 Report

Hmm last time I check didn't your weight affect your health?? Some doctors just dont know how to treat diabetes so they fake their way thru it…hence why I switched to a new doctor…and low and behold found out he is a diabetic himself…Yes!!!!! Finally a doctor that actually gets it…I havent seen him yet, but I will Nov. 11th…

Vicki

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