drinking water

Jim Edwards
By Jim Edwards Latest Reply 2011-04-25 08:47:30 -0500
Started 2011-04-20 10:24:19 -0500

Sadly, on a recent long trip I can reasonably conclusive say that consuming large amounts of water (over and above your need to satisfy your thirst) does NOT appear to have much influence on BG levels. Also, I encourage you to be a PITA to yourself and check the carbs in as many things that you intend to eat as possible. I was shooked to find that hard pretzels have about 17g (1 carb unit). This means I could have 4 pretzels and that would need to be my entire meal! Remember the stone diet. Stones have zero carbs and come in a variety of sizes and colors!

21 replies

amyspeer 2011-04-21 09:51:17 -0500 Report

Hi Jim Edwards, well you made me laugh about stones have zero carbs and come in many sizes and colors that was a good laugh for my day. I am going to keep drinking a lot of water, because water flushes out your system. I do not know how much if drinking lots of water helps your blood sugar go lower, can not personally say I studyed that one or been told that would help high blood sugar.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-21 10:11:37 -0500 Report

My "normal" intake of water is about 1 1/2 to 2 gallons a day, so on my trip when my BG was very high, I did close to 4 gallons. Of course, this made the trip longer since I had to do a lot of roadside stops! Once in Maryland on I95 I had to stop. Was there for less than a minute before the Maryland Road Patrol (not police, just there to help) stopped! I hope when I need them they are there just as quick! LOL!

kdroberts 2011-04-20 10:47:19 -0500 Report

I'm just curious, why would drinking water lower blood glucose levels? You are right about carbs being rampant in foods. The 100 calorie packs of pretzels contain about 20g.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-25 08:37:11 -0500 Report

Okay, KD. The lights and connections went on over the Easter weekend. See if I got it right. You ingest carbs. Your body (pancreas?) produces insulin to help use and dispel these carbs. Too many carbs/sugars cause an overflow to your kidneys, which are not designed to process sugars/carbs. The sugars stay in there for a bit and gradually damage your kidneys. for some reason, drinking more water does not flush the sugar out. Am I getting closer?

kdroberts 2011-04-25 08:47:30 -0500 Report

Kind of, glucose doesn't sit in your kidneys, it passes through. Kidneys are not meant to pass glucose through them but in an emergency situation, like high blood sugar, they will start to filter out glucose so it doesn't damage other areas of your body but doing so damages them. The more water you drink the more glucose will pass through them. If you buy urine glucose test strips you can see if your kidneys are filtering out glucose. If they come back no trace then kidneys are not, if they come back with some sort of reading then they are.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-20 14:37:47 -0500 Report

Well, the body is mostly water. Logically to me, if I get more water into my system, it seemed to me that it would drop my BG. If you look at the sugar as a poisen, then to me, it seems diluting it would help. Sadly, for me, it did not seem to work. I was on the road and I got sloppy on my carb intake.

northerngal 2011-04-20 11:29:49 -0500 Report

I think because the more hydrated you are the more accurate the reading and if you are dehydrated, its almost like thickening your blood which would raise the number because its actually more concentrated then. I would suspect that the difference would be fairly minimal though. Water is obviously better for efficient kidney functioin and Diabetics are definately more susceptible to that because of the extra glucose that needs to be filtered. I stick to the scientific explainations because they have to be proven.

Pynetree 2011-04-21 08:35:34 -0500 Report

…this is what my endo says too.

northerngal 2011-04-21 09:31:39 -0500 Report

Most of my responses are directly from visits with my Endo, and partly from being educated. Everything can be explained scientifically, but most of us don't have the ability to understand it, except at a basic level. You could really twist your brain into knots trying to figure out all the body functions and interactions. Hopefully, some day there will be a cure. I think stem cells are the best bet and I'm hoping someone makes that breakthrough before its too late.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-21 10:47:47 -0500 Report

My PCP knows a lot. He is a GP. One thing I like is that if he doesn't know, he will do his dangest to find out. He or his nurse usually call me in 2-3 days, with or without the info. I treasure that.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-20 14:41:15 -0500 Report

My main liquid intake is water and will continue to be. Rarely, I will drink tea, hot or cold. I like your thickening/thinning of blood. I guess that is my thinking too. One helpful thing a nurse told me was to pinch up my skin, just above the wrist. It should return to flat immediately. If not, drink some water.

kdroberts 2011-04-20 11:39:05 -0500 Report

The kidney issue is interesting. They aren't meant to filter glucose and doing so causes damage. However, they will only start filtering when your glucose is high enough, a rough guide is around 180. So, I could see how drinking water if your blood sugar could be seen to lower blood sugar but I don't know if you would really want to try that first since you know that you will be causing damage. Personally I would think NOT drinking anything much when your blood sugar is high and trying something else might be a better option since that would reduce the amount of glucose that your kidneys would filter and theoretically reduce the amount of damage. I could be way off and I don't think there is any real research on the subject so who knows for sure.

northerngal 2011-04-20 16:11:37 -0500 Report

But the excess also "leaks" into your urine, and kidneys do filter that, so they will be damaged by dehydration and high glucose amounts. I'm sure the recommendation will remain water because too many artificial sweeterners are also considered bad, if used too much-that is. Every cell in your body needs fluids because we're made of mostly water. When the bs is high, liquids of any type will be filtered by the kidneys and help flush them out, the waste products are what cause damage, so drinking more won't do more damage, it will help alleviate it. The main issue is getting the bs into a more reasonable range. You are safer staying hydrated and keep working on control, which we all know is sooooo much easier said than done. Keep at it!!!

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-21 09:33:20 -0500 Report

I suspect I tend to be over hydrated than under, as I have experienced the effects of dehydration and outside of peeing a lot more, I have not experienced any negative effects of over hydration. I guess, like most things, somewhere in the middle is best!

northerngal 2011-04-21 16:17:44 -0500 Report

You can actually become too hydrated. There have been cases of super fit athletes doing marathons or longer distances, drinking only water. It's called hyponatremia, basically the minerals in their bodies became unbalanced due to exertion/sweating/etc and 3or 4 people have died from it. You wouldn't think you could get over hydrated, but it is possible. When you sweat, you lose salt and some of the sports drinks include sodium and needed electrolytes for events lasting over 2 hours. Moderation I guess.

melcoujes 2011-04-23 01:23:12 -0500 Report

I have become overhyderated and fainted. Too much water and exercise, not enough salt. Taken by ambulence to hospital and told I had diluted my electrolites and to increase potassium. Water in moderation too. I tend to mix my liquid intake, coffee, water, diet soda, water, water, milk, water, diet soda, water…

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-20 14:51:26 -0500 Report

I tend to try and respond to stuff in the order that it was written. This allows my gut reaction to come out, and sometimes, I end up eating no carb crow! I thought the kidneys WERE meant to help filter glucose. Hummm…not drinking anything (to give your kidneys some time out?), but "doing something else". Like what? I am too new at this to know what those options might be. One thing about this site kd, is we never knows who knows what, but the input isgreat because it opens us up to other possibilities. thanks for your input.

kdroberts 2011-04-20 15:01:53 -0500 Report

No, kidneys are not meant to filter glucose and with normal glucose they don't. That's why one of the symptoms of diabetes is extreme thirst and frequent urination, it's your body reacting in the only way it can to lower blood glucose - more liquid = more urination = kidneys filtering out glucose.

Other things would include exercise and/or medication if appropriate.