Morning highs?

By Chris92 Latest Reply 2011-06-01 12:52:17 -0500
Started 2011-04-19 02:11:12 -0500

Recently I have been going to bed at a suitable level but then rising to high levels in the morning, without eating anything inbetween!
Has anyone else experienced this?
Any help on ways to prevent it would be much appreciated guys!

51 replies

Sam Stokes
Sam Stokes 2011-06-01 12:52:17 -0500 Report

Chris,I started the new weight watchers program,the new plus point system he3lps me to balance my blood sugar,only thing watch out sometimes the points do not take blood sugar spikes in sweet things,but vegies and fruits are 0 points,just check on how the fruits react to your system.

algretha 2011-05-02 19:39:20 -0500 Report

have you thought about if you're "rebounding" this is when you get low while sleeping, your body recognizes it and releases stored glucose from your liver, your liver releases larger amounts of glucose than you need so your blood is high in the am. This isn't super common for people but I've done it since I was a kid. You can try eating more right before bed, waking in the middle of the night to test, or (after discussing with your MD) lower your insulin. If this is happening alot you may notice your getting some belly fat, it's how your body stores extra for the common lows. Best wishes.

theladyiscrazy 2011-05-03 16:11:26 -0500 Report

I was going to suggest the same thing. They believed I was doing that at one time. You might also be able to change up meds a little.

MewElla 2011-04-26 18:18:33 -0500 Report

Everynight before bedtime I check my bg#'s and if they are below 100, which mine always are, I have a snack of graham cracker/pntbutter. This is a slow digesting carb which obviously my body needs to get me thru the nite until I have breakfast the next morning..When I ck my fasting #'s, my #'s are usually great.

Chris2617 2011-04-26 19:13:32 -0500 Report

How much of a snack do you take? I take 24 hr insulin and only take other insulin if i'm bad and my bs is high. i have been trying to keep up with my diet and exercise.

Starry20 2011-06-01 10:33:56 -0500 Report

I take levimir before bed, and if I wake up high I take a bit more insulin for dinner and more night time insulin then my body reacts and I regulates my bs…

MewElla 2011-04-26 21:14:39 -0500 Report

My snack is 2 graham crackers/lightly spread with pntbutter. I watch my diet carefully plus every day I walk 5-6 miles. Am diet/exercise controlled for over a year, no meds or insulin. Good Luck to you. But always I test #'s, and have snack when I am under 100, which I always am, therefore snack to keep morning #'s great.

CaliKo 2011-04-26 18:28:03 -0500 Report

Hi MewElla,
How much graham crackers do you eat? I always get confused if "a square" is the big cracker with the four little squares, or just one of the little squares…

MewElla 2011-04-26 18:38:50 -0500 Report

I have 2 of the big crackers lightly spread with the pntbutter. One cracker just didn't work for me,but 2 big crackers do the job…

CaliKo 2011-04-26 19:19:17 -0500 Report

Oh good, I'm so glad you weren't talking about the little squares, I know portion control is key, but …

mommaike 2011-04-26 17:31:06 -0500 Report

Chris, have the same problem, and my doctor told me that as you get older your numbers will rise overnight because your body needs more insulin to keep you on an even keel. If this is a constant, than something may be wrong with your meds, or your eating habits.f it is sporadic , I was told not to worry as long as my A1C is in normal range.

jenugen 2011-04-26 17:16:51 -0500 Report

My dctor told me rthat sometimes the body senses a need for extra insulin and even thoh you haven't eaten, it will produce more of its own. Before I go to bed at night I have a slow release carb. sometimes I will have some peanut butter or a small can of v-8. I have verey good morning numbers, between 90and 102. My last A1C came back at 5.4 so I must be doing something right, much to my own surprise. Just don't give up. I am also dealing with a stroke recovery and have a wonderful doctor who will answer any question I have. This has been the biggest help to me. Talking and asking questions is the most important thing to help you deal with problems.

Jim Edwards
Jim Edwards 2011-04-26 16:23:19 -0500 Report

I was going to post a question like this, but I figured that someone would track me down and haul me off to the institution! It is crazy. One of the things that I have done is to test my BG every hour after my supper. I can then tell when it has stopped climbing. I had heard about a snack before bed, but until today, did not know the reason for it. Thanks to the DC education squad, I now know.

Sam Stokes
Sam Stokes 2011-06-01 12:32:12 -0500 Report

It,s a difference in our bodies metabolism ,for instance mine,s protien another is mixed or carb.A protien metabolism needs 45% protien ,35% carbs ,20 % fats. Example if I eat a banana I need to eat peanut butter or another kind of protien with it.

littleluz 2011-04-26 14:41:58 -0500 Report

i have the same problem. the doctor told me that at night while u sleep your liver produce more sugar if u dont eat a snack before bed. so now i have a snack at bed time and my levels are normal in the morning.

therev76 2011-04-26 14:07:10 -0500 Report

Hi Chris, I have that problem also. I can go to bed and sleep for 36 hours and eat nothing and get up with a reading of over 200, I have started taking my quick react if at bed time if I am over 180, When I do get up I find that my reading are much better. Good luck

big momma 10
big momma 10 2011-04-26 12:44:56 -0500 Report

Hi Chris, I have found that what work for me is, no eating after 8:clock and I take my insulin shot between 9 and 10. when I do that ,my number are good in the morning. just a thought

ethansmimi 2011-04-26 12:02:31 -0500 Report

I have experienced the same thing and I read an article that said the body produces more insulin overnight so it might help to eat a bedtime snack. It doesn't make sense to me, but when I started regularly eating a bedtime snack it helped make my early morning sugars lower.

DPatriot 2011-04-26 12:26:17 -0500 Report

I've experienced the same thing. I'd awaked around 4-5 int eh morning and my sugar would be in the 140's and I could understand why. so then someone mention either I was a brittle diabetic or I shoud awake in the middle of the night and have a snack which I do now and everything is fine when I test in the morning. and Guess what the snack is? a twinkie or something of that sort and a glass of milk and I'm fine in the morning. Go figure

mighty joe young
mighty joe young 2011-04-21 16:13:24 -0500 Report

My morings have been high in the past and my dr. said to take the bulk of my meds/Metforman at night and that seem to help alot. Now I ave age 120-130.

White Tiger
White Tiger 2011-04-26 13:57:02 -0500 Report

I take Metformin twice a day —before breakfast and before supper —and 25 units of Levemir before I go to bed -average 65 in the morning. But if I don't eat a little snack around 12 am I will wake up with a very low reading of 45

Cactus Ron
Cactus Ron 2011-04-21 16:01:42 -0500 Report

Every morning I wake up with a high reading that gradually lowers thoughout the day. I haven't been able to determine why.

Jeanette Terry
Jeanette Terry 2011-04-21 15:48:59 -0500 Report

you may be experiencing what is called the dawn phenomenon. It is when your blood sugar rises in the morning like you explained. Of course you should talk to your doctor about the higher blood sugars in the morning so that you can counteract them. But here is an article that talks a little bit more about the dawn phenomenon and why we get it.

Durban52 2011-04-21 15:55:20 -0500 Report

I have been a diabetic 43 years if it is over 200 on getting up you should proable take a small amount of Fast Acting before going to bed if it is over 250 at bed time but ask your Doctor first

Alexx_x 2011-04-20 19:54:54 -0500 Report

I was having the same problem not too long ago. My doctor had be wear a CGM (continuous glucose monitor) for a few days. It turned out that I was going extremely low every night and then rebounding, making my sugars very high. A few overnight tests can help you tell if this is the problem you're also having.

Flustrated 2011-04-26 14:10:51 -0500 Report

What is a continuous glucose monitor?

Alexx_x 2011-04-26 14:15:48 -0500 Report

It is something you can use with a medtronic pump, or just on it's own, where you leave it in your skin as you would an insert for a pump and it checks your bloodsugar every so often letting you know what your levels are throughout the day

Alexx_x 2011-04-26 16:30:46 -0500 Report

No it can be used if you do not have a pump. They are expensive though and you still have to check you bloodsugar at your normal times. I only used one because we couldn't figure out what was going on with my bloodsugars

Chris92 2011-04-21 02:57:19 -0500 Report

Is there anyway you changed that? Is it still happening? :-/

Alexx_x 2011-04-21 14:10:45 -0500 Report

well I am on a pump so we reduced my insulin. If you're using pens you may need to give your long-acting twice, once in the morning and one before bed, to help control it. It could also depend on what foods you might be eating before bed. Protein would most likely be the best thing to eat if this is the case.

roshy 2011-04-19 17:17:30 -0500 Report

i try gentle exercise before i go to bed!! this normally helps with the rise in my sugars during the night!! i know how ya feel!! it can be really frustrating at times!!

vvanata 2011-04-19 14:44:25 -0500 Report

Sometimes you may not be getting enough insulin at night or like was said before dawn phenomenon. I have had that problem a lot too. I have a pump so what I've had to do is adjust my basal rate to go up during the night. Sometimes if you eat certain snacks before bed it can cause that too. I know how frustrating it can be tho. You would think you eat nothing and it would go down or stay level but us diabetics dont get that lucky.

MarkS 2011-04-19 14:20:42 -0500 Report

Another question - does it rise on mornings after you've eaten a meal high in fat the evening before? High fat meals have a slow burn and often result in morning highs. I've found this to be especially true when eating Indian food, barbecued ribs, and some Chinese foods. As others have said, check your blood sugar in the early hours to see if its the dawn phenomena (for me it occurs around 3 to 4 AM though clinically it can occur between 2 to 8 AM) results in you dropping low and then rebounding. Good luck.

White Tiger
White Tiger 2011-04-26 14:27:23 -0500 Report

High fat meals such as (barbecued ribs —r u kidding me?), Indian food and Chinese food will definetely give you a high reading at any time of the day. . . .

kdroberts 2011-04-19 10:34:46 -0500 Report

Are you waking up a lot higher than when you went to bed or just a little higher? What insulin do you take and when do you take them? How close to bed do you eat?

Chris92 2011-04-19 10:47:11 -0500 Report

I take novarapid at supper so maye at about nine o clock. I also take longerlasting insulin once a day. I wake up quite a bit higher. Really not sure what's happening

kdroberts 2011-04-19 11:10:23 -0500 Report

As said below, try testing at about 2:00. You may be going low and then rebounding high. If you take your long lasting insulin in the morning it's very possible that it's running out in the evening or during the night which would lead to an increase. It also could be that you are not taking enough long lasting insulin in general, if your numbers during the day are good then this might not be the case. Something else that could be a problem is the time you are eating. It could be that the food you are eating is still raising your blood sugar when you test before bed and you actually need a little more mealtime insulin to take care of the rise.

You'll have to test and see though, it may be a combo of all of those.

roshy 2011-04-19 17:19:38 -0500 Report

you were saying about the rebound after lows during the night, i was wondering if this has a bad effect on either your kidneys or liver if it happens too often??

roshy 2011-04-19 17:43:20 -0500 Report

so if there is a consistant reacurence it can have a damaging effect?? this is frightning, i didnt realise this! do you know what the effects are on your body??

roshy 2011-04-19 18:03:36 -0500 Report

oh right sorry, i get you now!! i dont understand that sometimes you can sleep through a hypo and other times you wake up!!any ideas??

epuring 2011-04-19 02:50:08 -0500 Report

It used to happen to me slot… What is happening is that your sugar is crashing while you sleep… Try setting an alarm for 1 or 2 am and check your sugar… You may be surprised… Talk to your doctor if this is what happens

Chris92 2011-04-19 03:35:47 -0500 Report

How have you stopped it from happening?