What are "good" numbers for a Type II not using meds?

By HisOtherHalf Latest Reply 2011-04-07 09:15:50 -0500
Started 2011-04-06 14:51:24 -0500

My husband was diagnosed 4 months ago with type 2. At that time, his fasting BG was 255. Our doctor told him to do the "diet and exercise" thing and in 4 weeks he was down to a fasting 193, had lost 14 pounds, his blood pressure and cholesteral were both normal. At the 8 week mark his fasting was 179 and he had lost a total of 18 pounds. At that point our doctor told him to start testing twice a day (before breakfast and before bed). His numbers ran pretty much in the 150's for that 3rd month (both morning and evening). For this past month the doc had him change his evening test to just before supper. He's been finding that his morning readings are staying in the 150's (he tests before he eats) and the evening tests (before supper now) are in the 110's/120's. Are these numbers "good"? And why on Earth would his sugar be higher in the morning after not eating anything for 10-12 hours? Our doc just keeps saying "You're doing good. Just keep it up. We caught is early. You'll do fine."

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Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2011-04-07 09:15:50 -0500 Report

Your husband is making great progress. BG numbers will vary from person to person. The following is the recommended goal BG numbers for peple with good control. Sometimes no matter what we do our bodies may resist getting to the ideal BG number. The pancreas and liver can make this difficult.






*ADA: "Post-prandial glucose measurements should be made 1–2 hours after the
beginning of the meal, generally peak levels in patients with diabetes."

ADA= American Diabetes Assn. Joslin = Joslin Diabetes Center AACE= American
Association Of Clinical Endocrinologists Non-diabetic= ranges compiled from goals
of all agencies.

Kirla 2011-04-06 19:13:11 -0500 Report

I heard that numbers above 140 starts to do damage. So I try and keep mine below that. Don’t always succeed but most of the time I do. I control with diet only. All A1C’s since the first have been below 6.0. My last one was 5.9. Been struggling with my blood sugar lately. Starting to think it might be stress related. Didn’t used to think my numbers were affected by stress much. But lately I’m starting to wonder. When my number run good they go from the upper 50’s to 110 and when they run bad like now they go from the upper 80’s to 140. Hoping they drop soon.

jayabee52 2011-04-06 15:42:17 -0500 Report

Howdy "other half"!

His BG#s seem to be going the right way, to be sure! Various authorities suggest different #s as "good". Some say 70-130 is good. When I learned about diabetes in CNA training, I was told 80-120. but it is generally in that range. So his BG readings of 110 to 120 is fine. What are his #s after his supper and before bed? If he has a big jump in #s after supper, that may explain the fasting #s.

I suggest taking his BG#s before he retires for the night, so you know what he's running through the night. If he is high and is coming down during the night, then you have your answer of why 150s for fasting reading overnight.

If he's not very high when going to bed, then something called the "Dawn Phenemenon" might be at work with him.

Do a discussion search on DC for "Dawn Phenemon" or "Liver dump" and you should find several discussions on that.

Blessings to you and yours


Art Loving
Art Loving 2011-04-06 15:58:48 -0500 Report

Good suggestion. I experience the liver dump or dawn phenemon.
I'm now taking 1000mg of cinnamon at bedtime and another 1000mg when I take my daily pills about 8:00 a.m, and my morning BS is good not perfect but good.

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