I need to vent about DOCTORS!!

By PANTOUS Latest Reply 2011-04-10 17:50:02 -0500
Started 2011-04-04 15:38:15 -0500

How is this B.S ?? I went to the doctor's for a physical in Jan. 2011 (which my insurance doesn't charge for it's FREE) I got a bill for $20. I called the office to tell them they made a mistake. They said they'd look into it. When the lady called me back she said it's correct casue the doctor went above and beyond the basic physical and charged me for a sick visit. I said but I wasn't sick so how can he charge me for that?? Then she said oh you talked to him about your high cholesterol (I know spelling is wrong sorry) and that was going above and beyond his duty!!!!!! I thought that what physicals were for, so you can discuss with the doctor how you are feeling!!! But I guess I am wrong and I have to now pay the $20!! With my surgery coming up and having to pay $300 I don't want to dish out any more money, oh and I have to go see him before the surgery and I really don't even want to know!!! I am so pissed casue I believe I am right in this matter. Now I am not going to say anything when I get my physical, and maybe get a new doctor!! Does anyone agree with me???

29 replies

donna62M 2011-04-10 17:50:02 -0500 Report

I personally think doctors should charge a single fee per visit with an addition if it is a long vist only… their job is to look after your health…that is why you pay them… and that is why you go to them…you should never have to pay per question.

pixsidust 2011-04-09 23:47:01 -0500 Report

Its possible that the tests involved are covered in the physical but the actual doctors visit is not. They are separate bills and are not one and the same.

Lakeland 2011-04-09 21:47:36 -0500 Report

I'm on my 15th doctor in 4 years, I have chronic pain & being female doctors thought it was an obgyn issue, so I didn't have children & at 39 I started by having novasure done & then having a tubal , when that didn't help I ended up seeing 4 obgyn's, 3 primary care, 1 gastroenterologist, 2 urologists, 1 urogynecologist, 1 surgeon, 1 endocrinologist, 3 chiropractors, orthopedic doctor & now a spine specialist. People kept sending me back to an obgyn.

My peeve is I wasn't diabetic through the pre testing for the 4 surgeries, but 1 doctor gave me lupron and then my sugar spiked to 550 & I went blurry.

the 4 sugeries was because when I went back to the obgy, they thought I needed to have a hysterectomy, one obgyn wanted to look for endo, then the previous obgyn said I had adhesions so he went back in. I still have pain.

Now the spine doctor thinks it's my hip so I'll be seeing another doctor soon.

I had gone to hershey medical & they were out of my insurance, so I asked him for a price, he said $200 I got there & after I paid the bill, I got a notice that I owed them $200 more. I sent a card to the doctor . Cards they get, letters the secretary gets. they called me to tell me they cancelled the bill. I wasn't mean to them I told them I got a price, pre paid my bill, I think it's dirty to do that to me. It also makes me wonder what they charge the insurance company, that was a big jump in the price.

The chiropractor was the biggest rip off of all of them. one doctor told me my pain was muscular skeletal so that's what a chiropractor does, they charge for everything, he wanted me to do certain exercises, he had a kid come in & give me a paper & show me the exercises. that kid & paper added $75 to the bill. He put heat on my back prior to working on me. That was an additiona $25. I walked out of there with a $200 bill.

That's horrible.

sooo sorry for you,
Best wishes

mrchefw 2011-04-08 08:14:32 -0500 Report

This kind of thing is how Dr's offices make up for what insurance won't pay, It's not right, but It's how It's done.

Armourer 2011-04-07 22:04:09 -0500 Report

Sounds like "pass the buck", nobody wants to be responsible for the scrip. If you can, get a new Doc!

chimpanda 2011-04-06 18:49:29 -0500 Report

I totally feel you! I've got a good story for you. I have chronic pain in my back and was on pain killers for about 9 months. Then one day my back doctor says I need to see the chronic pain doctor. I then went to that appointmet and he did an eval to determin what medication would be safe for me with all the others I am already on. I then find out that my back doctor is no longer going to prescribe because she has transfered my care. the chronic pain doctor said that he is only doing the eval and he's not the prescribing physcian and I need to get my refills from my back doctor. The back dr tells me to follow up with my primary care doctor which I do. My primary tells me it's a back issue and need to go back to the pain clinic. So there I was, three doctors telling me to call a different one and in the mean time no one is giving me the medication I needed for my medically diagnosed conditions. I ended up withdrawing from no one giving me a refill because although I was not addicted or abusing the medication, my body was used to it. Thanks a whole lot. Needless to say I have since transfered my care!

lilred46 2011-04-06 16:28:33 -0500 Report

Yes, find another doctor . Mine is great but I don't have insurance she gives me good discount and takes real good care of me. So basically nit all bad:(

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2011-04-06 14:57:34 -0500 Report


Wow, in a word: amazing!

Your experience is a good example of the issues facing our healthcare system. Doctors are being pressed by managed care to charge their clients as if they were in a fancy restaurant ordering a la carte, managed care companies in turn feel the pressure to cover their constituents and still be a profitable company.

Believe me, I am not making excuses for your doctor. But it's a complicated problem.

I am an advocate for patients. I'm sorry you are going through this. With all of these copays you are having to come up, I suspect that some days you wonder if you have any health coverage at all to speak of.

For patients, it sometimes comes down to choosing a doctor that they feel comfortable communicating with, who takes good care of them, who is upfront about potential costs, and who isn't likely to come back to them with surprises. This might be a decision for you to consider.

To face situations like this during a difficult time in your life is a lot to deal with. I hope you are getting lots of support from the people in your life.

And from all of the replies to your post, it looks like you have a lot of support here on DC.

Stay in touch!


PANTOUS 2011-04-08 07:16:08 -0500 Report

thanks gary, I have always supported health care, because I pay big bucks for mine $179.85 a week and my company pays the other half. I haven't gotten a raise in 6 years. I make less and less every year so that means less for social security and forget about getting taxes back at the end of the year. Just make enough to live and my mom helps me buy food. It sad when this health care ceos are making so much money and they don't even work there anymore!! I want a job like that!!!

Dr Gary
Dr GaryCA 2011-04-10 09:17:25 -0500 Report

I understand, believe me. It's frustrating to be struggling to make ends meet, and get the healthcare you need, in this economic crisis that we are in. Another example of the unfairness of life. I am glad that you have some support from family.

MickyB 2011-04-05 12:57:58 -0500 Report

Whew!! I'm glad I found a Doc who cares. Had an appointment today and because other people played bumper cars, I was about :25 late. Instead of having to reschedule, I was quickly worked in. While talking to my Dr., I was having a "pity party" and she LISTENED, then we talked about how to get back on track.

Wow!!! I think I'll keep her.

1cookie :)
1cookie :) 2011-04-05 12:00:17 -0500 Report

I had the same thing happen to me. I have white coat syndrome..My blood pressure goes up esp. when I go for my yearly PAP. They would not fill my birth control because of the high BP..I was asked to come in just to check it again..I was very specific to ask about —-it as a office vist because I have (@ that time) a $30 copay for each. They said no/no charge. While there, it was still high; so I was asked if I wanted to try another method. I said no thanks..because they asked me a question…it was now an office visit; I had to pay!!!!

northerngal 2011-04-05 10:08:51 -0500 Report

This is a case where the insurance company can be your greatest ally. Have them check into the extra charges. They should have sent a complete explaination of what is covered under any type visit. A cholesterol check definately falls under "routine" and should not have been charged extra. Sometimes if you think you are just getting the standard line to get rid of you, ask to speak to their supervisor. Make them explain exactly why that is not considered part of the physical and file a complaint if you have to. Enough complaints and the Dr will find himself dropped from coverage or facing charges of fraud!

Wandalita 2011-04-05 08:22:38 -0500 Report

Hi Gabby, just wanted to say, most people because of whats going on that doctors and or Insurances take advantage for more money, people will not trust anyone anymore, isnt this horrible? I believe there are cures out there for some if not all deseases, and because someone wants to make more money these cures will not be put to effect, instead we're given some medication that hides the symtom. We are affraid and skepticle about lidtening to reason when someone speaks reason.

GabbyPA 2011-04-05 08:43:00 -0500 Report

I am a believer in capitalism, but in this case, where it hurts many people, I have to say it is an ugly truth.

Medicine has been around for centuries and we have always sought to find a cure to our ills. I suppose it is our desire to live forever somewhere deep inside. LOL But when people start taking advantage of the desperation of those in need, it kills me. Just as alternative or holistic medicines get a bad rap because they are less "profitable".

That is why I do my best to find a balance of all of the systems above. Finding honest doctors, try alternative ideas and practice holistic approaches. In all of that somewhere, I am going to find something that works for me. I do all that and I die anyway. So you better believe, I want to be as happy as I can be before I go.

GabbyPA 2011-04-05 08:00:10 -0500 Report

Times like this is when I am glad I don't have insurance. I know I have to pay cash and my doctor knows he has no limits on me but what he chooses to do. Insurance companies try everything to get that extra dime and what that does is encourage us to keep our mouths closed and just take what ever pills the doctors give us. It is a rotten system and if you can find a doctor that still really wants to listen and genuinely help, then stick with them.

The upfront cost of my visits might be more. Yesterday I had to pay my podiatrist $70. BUT, when he was going to take a sample to justify the insurance company of a treatment, I told him I didn't have insurance and he just smiled and said "Ok, I will save you some money" and gave me the treatment anyway. He knew what to do, but the insurance companies "force" him to do things he knows he doesn't need to do. Until insurance companies allow doctors to do what they know how to do it will not end.

For my profession, I design homes and draft up construction drawings. I know how to build things and how code wants things done. It irks me when my client or a friend says "You just do it this way" when they have no clue what they are talking about. Let those who are experts in their fields do what they know how to do. Let our doctors do their jobs without the interference of the insurance companies.

Guardianstone 2011-04-05 02:13:41 -0500 Report

Mercedies, or pay off his bookie?
Your right but I think b. s. is toooooo mild. Check with your local AMA or the ins. co or the state. This is a rip-off of the highest order. Or should I say odor?
Guardian stone

Erin P
Erin P 2011-04-04 18:24:39 -0500 Report

I would talk to him. I would tell him that u weren't sick and that discussing ur cholesterol should have been included in the physical. But I'm sure they charged u because they may not get money from the insurance. What are they going to charge when u go back for ur history and physical for ur surgery. I would say something for sure, ur the patient u have the right. If they don't take it off then I'd leave or call the AMA.

RockyMtnGal 2011-04-04 17:34:04 -0500 Report

Some insurance companies "keep tabs" on their physicians too. Mine has rating for many of them and also an opportunity to give feedback. Could be he's charging insurance for things he is claiming is "above and beyond" but really he's just greedy?

pkwillhoite 2011-04-04 16:25:58 -0500 Report

And it not like they dont get enough of your money to start with… What is this world comming to… OMG I would vent to if I were you and then look for a new dr… Hope You get your money back!!!

jayabee52 2011-04-04 15:51:17 -0500 Report

Howdy Donna,
That seems like you are being ripped off to me.
I would probably be seeking a new Dr if I could.

Go ahead and gripe, vent, kvetch, beyotch, or whatever term you want to use. Just get it out!



PANTOUS 2011-04-08 07:10:36 -0500 Report

guess what?? I got a letter from the docotr's office saying they are goin to look into this claim. Also found out the new health ins. law says you can get a physical for free once a year~ and I think the doctors are trying to get around that new law and saying it was a sick viit also, so they can get a little more $$$. I am stressing out big time my husband might not have a job soon, and I have applied for our state meical ins. but its always No sorry. I pay $179.85 a week for health insurance. and my company pays the other 179.85. In my opinion I shouldn't have to pay anything~ no doctor appt. no prescritptions, nothing~!~ Any way I will be like millions of others making just enough money to pay for medical ins. esp. when we have a condition. Thanks for everything from everyone~

PANTOUS 2011-04-04 17:31:03 -0500 Report

thanks you have been such a great help. I am really thinking about changing, but becasue of my surgery, I can't right now. But we'll see after this next appointment if he will get them to change the bill, espically becasue the things the billing department was telling me I was talking to him about I wasn't!! I think they got me confused with someone else!!!!

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