Does "Lap Band" sugery cure(?) diabetes?

Sidehack
By Sidehack Latest Reply 2011-05-28 21:34:30 -0500
Started 2011-03-29 07:19:58 -0500

March 29 '11 Good Morning America ran a story how "lap band" surgery can wipe out type 2 diabetes. This causes weight loss which helps; but they said patients who have had the surgery were insulin free just hours after it was done.
Has anyone else seen or heard of this? And what do doctors say?


24 replies

cheetah1976
cheetah1976 2011-05-28 21:34:30 -0500 Report

Had lap band past November and still on insulin. I would never do it again. Plus my insurance didn't cover it.

Lady_Phoenix
Lady_Phoenix 2011-04-02 23:40:28 -0500 Report

A couple of years ago I asked my doctor about having lap band or a bypass. He absolutely refused despite my having all the comorbidities and being 303 lbs at 5'2" tall. He told me to get my butt off the couch and lose it that way. Now I am down 85 lobs, off one medication for high blood pressure, the other cut in half, off medication for my diabetes. Am I cured? No, I will ALWAYS consider myself diabetic. I know that should I go back to my old eating habits and sedentary life, my sugars will rise.

Also something the report did not state is that quite a few people regain all their weight after bypass or lap band. It may help in initial weight loss but does not change the reasons for being obese in the first place. Bypass is major surgery and can be fatal. I lost several patients following bypass over the years and a dear friend passed away 3 years ago following her bypass.

sisson
sisson 2011-04-02 01:21:47 -0500 Report

Hi I was just watching the news the other day and if I heard it right. They were talking about how the skin is starting to growing over the band and it was getting caroded and people were getting very sick from it. My oldest wanted me to get it done years ago and I am so gald that I never had it done. I do know that for everyone it is diffrent but I would talk it over with your family and doctors and Pray on it realy hard.

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-04-02 06:27:50 -0500 Report

New procedures all have to stand that test of time. Even though it has been an option for many years now, long term issues with things are always the concern. My friend had gastric by pass surgery and her complications nearly killed her. But they didn't show up until 6 years after the initial surgery. It is all risky, and choosing to do it makes it all the more heart breaking when things go wrong.

sisson
sisson 2011-04-02 18:40:20 -0500 Report

I know what you mean. My daughter girl friend and partner she had the same operation. We came so close so many times to lossing her after and it's only been a few months. We just live every day like everyday as the same and as for myself I just pray for every day that my daughter has her in her life and lives one day at a time and that they get to enjoy each other.

kdroberts
kdroberts 2011-03-31 11:50:55 -0500 Report

It's being researched is the best answer. Some people have gone on to develop diabetes after having it done, some diabetics it "cures" only for diabetes to return at a later date and some diabetics see no improvement so it's not the magic bullet that the media makes out. They are also researching gastric bypass and a duodenum-jejunum bypass as possible treatments.

1cookie :)
1cookie :) 2011-03-31 10:02:57 -0500 Report

I wanted to add information from a dr. oz show abot lap band surgery. I take notes from my dvr…found the notebook this morning. He said (as I paraphrase the info) : 80% of people had benefits from haveing it done.
***90% had side effects; of the 90%—-1/2 had moderatly, severe problems..and increase in reflux. 30% had the band removed.

1cookie :)
1cookie :) 2011-03-31 01:15:11 -0500 Report

I saw the report. It was about gastric bypass not lap band. There's a big difference between the 2 proceedures. Lap band is a belt placed on the stomach to make it smaller. It is reversable and the belt can slip and must be moniterd often aFTER IT IS DONE. tHE BIPASS IS WHEN THEY DISCONNECT AND REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE STOMACH; then they connect it farther down the small intestine. ( It is not reverseable) That "bi passes" a great deal of small intestine where the nutriants and calories are absorbed. Your stomach is basically the size of 2 eggs. You can only consume 3 oz of food and have to take suppliments for ever basically. Iv'e had a few of my patients who have had these proceedures done. Yes they lost weight quickly but if your not exercising the extra skin just hangs…sometimes even with exercise they needed to have skin removed. Hope this helps.

doggier
doggier 2011-03-29 21:54:56 -0500 Report

My doctor called my dad one day and told him that he could stop take his diabetic meds. because he was no longer a diabetic, but another doctor told him once a diabetic always a diabetic. Don't know which, just tell you my experience.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-30 07:34:11 -0500 Report

It seems tht there is a diference of opinion within the medical community. Those who believe it can be cured, others who believe that while it may be managed well enough that the symptoms don't show up, but if the management is removed, your symptoms return. Personally, I hope for the former opinion (cure) but believe in the latter (control)

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-03-29 20:53:54 -0500 Report

Diabetes is a genetic disease, surgery cannot change your genes so no, it is not a cure. And even for the people who have success they have to stick to their new diet and exercise other wise they will be back on meds again just like before.

People who say they are cured are either misinformed or are going by the definition of cured the insurance companies use, which goes by whether you are controlled with medicine or controlled with diet. Insurance companies do not consider diet and exercise to be medical treatment so to them diet controlled diabetics are no longer diabetic.

In truth, once a diabetic always a diabetic until they can fix our issues on a genetic level.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2011-03-29 20:28:37 -0500 Report

The surgeries (gastric or lapband) do not cure diabetes but they may help to better control. Diabetes is a disease that is neither caused nor cured. My wife is a gastic patient … wasn't diabetic and isn't diabetic … but she belongs to support groups that you'll hear a totally different story than on "Good Morning, America." There are success stories and those without success. Help? Yes. Cure? NO, unfortunately. What works for one person doesn't work for all and that's true with or without a weight loss surgery, diet, exercise plan or anything else. I think in alot of cases, they news story "buzzes" create false hope to those who honestly need a miracle.

EmeraldSea
EmeraldSea 2011-03-29 18:41:10 -0500 Report

For years my sister had diabetes and last year she had this surgery. About one month (or less) after the surgery she no longer had diabetes and she has been able to maintain the weight loss. So in my book, this is positive news. Now if we can only get the insurance companies to see the benefit of paying for this type of surgery, we can save lives.

bigjohn1202
bigjohn1202 2011-03-29 11:44:10 -0500 Report

I weigh 375 60y/o and have type 2 had it for almost 18 yrs, have never heard of lap band working to get you off insulin, it could help and then again I keep being told diet exercise, funny I have bad knees and the dr's keep telling me to exercise I wonder if they realize that won't happen. I have though of lap band just because of my weight but can't afford it and insurance won't pay for it… I would love to quit taking meds for diabetes but I can only hope, my kidneys are begining to fail because I don't have a good handle on myself so only time will tell. good luck

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-29 13:52:55 -0500 Report

John, you seem to be in denial. Telling us what cannot happen with you.

I don't want to be harsh, but sometimes I needed to be called out on my "stinkin thinkin" as well. I have been a real "knothead" in times past and in denial too.
I hate to see someone who is following a similar path, without warning him. Please see my profile (click my picture to go there) and take a look of what I have done to myself by my stubborness and denial.

You say of exercise "that won't happen". Yes, exercise is undoubetly unfomfortable for your knees, but you can find an indooor swimming pool and do water aerobics. Less stress on your knees.

I have diabetic neuropathy. EVERY step I take is painful. I get on a recumbent excercise bike and pedal, and also have started with a seated yoga class. And I have been away from my dance classes for a while, but plan to get back into them even though each step is painful. I have so much fun in the classes that I forget the pain, or the pain recedes into the background that it is tolerable.

I have a friend who is a quadriplegic and gets around using a wheelchair. She excercises by pushing her manual wheelchair 1/4 to 1/2 mi around her apartment complex. She doesn't have full use of her hands, but she uses what she has to excercise her body and what function she does have left.

Are YOU more crippled than she? I suspect the disability is between the ears, in one's thought processes.

Long and short of it, John, you CAN excercise if you put your mind to it. The exact form of exercise really doesn't matter. What matters is that you GET MOVING! somehow!

Failing kidneys ia another thing I have (take a look at my profile for the whole list of my "medical challenges") i HAD been on dialysis, and it was not fun to go to the clinic 3 x/wk, 4hrs /session. My kidneys shutting down almost killed me. Fortunately the dialysis helped my kidney infection to clear up and I was off dialysis in 10 months. That rarely happens and I know how blessed I am. I don't want to have to go back on dialysis, so I follow my kidney diet and my diabetic diet as well as possible.

Don't let your kidneys fail if you can help it. Hoping and good luck and wishes will not get you where you need to go. With your kidneys, go to a renal specialist (kidney Dr) and follow his recommendations. There are things you need to avoid consuming to keep your kidneys functioning. You will not get back to the way you were when you were a 20-something, but you can preserve what little kidney function you do have left.

You may not like this person who doesn't know you tell you what to do. I didn't like it when my wife, who loved me gave me an ultimatum either: "start taking your diabetes meds, or I'll divorce you."

But this is no ultimatum. It is cerainty: Ignore your care for your Diabetes, and your Kidney care and you will have problems, probably painful problems and ultimately death. ——— None of us gets out of this life alive, but I want to give the grim reaper a run for his money! I suspect you might too.

If you want to talk about this further, or anything else, please either come back here, or start a new discussion, or accept my friend request and email me on the DC system.

Blessings to you and yours

James

Gabby
GabbyPA 2011-03-29 07:28:04 -0500 Report

It is not a cure. It is a treatment and it is not 100% successful, just like many other treatments. It is a good option for many people however and the success of it helping diabetics gain control of levels is very encouraging. But if you have it removed and return to your old eating habits, you will find the diabetes is not gone, it was just being well controlled. There is a big difference.

Sidehack
Sidehack 2011-03-29 10:20:16 -0500 Report

How long can you have a lap band in place? Will it ease the neuorapathy in hands and feet? Or is that permanent damage? Are there any side effects? Physical discomfort? If anyone has a lap band, please email me. I have a bunch of questions!

Mattysgirl1982
Mattysgirl1982 2011-03-29 12:33:58 -0500 Report

I also intereasted in learning more about this too it sounds interesting, however from the class that I am in or was in before I graduated from the diabetes clinic that I was attending I learned that neuropathy is not reversable. As far as easing it I dont know how that would work however I would like very much to learn more about all of it.

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-29 13:55:14 -0500 Report

there's a difference of opinion about neuropathy being reversable or easing it. Since I am suffereing from it, I am praying that it is reversable.

MELCHALK
MELCHALK 2011-03-29 22:31:13 -0500 Report

I HAVE HAD DIABETES FOR OVER 40YRS. AND THE LAST 20YRS.I HAVE HAD NEUROPATHY IN MY HANDS,LEGS,AND THE ONE FOOT I HAVE LEFT.I HAVE FOUND THAT 60MG. OF CYMBALTA DAILY,AND KEEPING MY SUGAR BELOW 150 HAS HELPED MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE I HAVE TRIED LIKE NEURONTIN OR NUMBING PATCHES,CREAMS,OR JELLS.HAVE YOU EVER TRIED CYMBALTA?