Hi to all my DC family! Been down and out for a few days!

By nanaellen Latest Reply 2011-03-27 21:35:14 -0500
Started 2011-03-26 12:38:52 -0500

Had my other pancreas test Thurs. and have been feeling awful ever since.:( My throat hurts my teeth hurt and my stomach is ssoooooooo upset! I didn't feel this bad with the first test! They did another endoscopy with ultra sound. I know it's not cancer and it's not malignant but I sure wish they would find out what's wrong!!! I feel like I'm in limbo…can't get a job feeling like THIS! And I so desperately want to go back to work!! I have no med. Insurance so it's really frustrating trying to get all my meds and stuff. All this diabetes stuff is LIKE having a full time job!!!! I'm sure that this pancreas problem is affecting my sugar too so it's even MORE difficult!! My biggest problem has been that I come from a big family (I'm the oldest of 6 children) and we were always taught to "eat until your full" if your not full have some bread. (we were raised on white bread) I can't handle wheat or dark bread! Yuck! And I don't drink water because it makes me choke EVERY time I drink it! Another BIG problem for me is I don't eat breakfast I never have! Hell sometimes I don't even eat lunch! Don't usually get hungry till after 2 or 3 p.m.! I'm about 80 lbs. overweight which I've been my whole life!! My primary Dr. tells me all the time that if I lost the weight everything else would go away!! O.K. but I'm on 5 different meds AND insulin which PREVENT me from losing weight!! The only excercise I can do is swimming or bike riding and THAT costs money!! Then I'm not only fighting myself but all the meds too! I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle!! Any suggestions??? I can't afford to test as often as I should so that doesn't help either!!

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pixsidust 2011-03-27 08:51:25 -0500 Report

Your story reads much like mine. I have the same weight loss needed etc… except I have insurance. Wal-Mart sells many Diabetic medicines for $10 a 90 day supply. You have to change to fit with a healthy Diabetic lifestyle. I can not give answers where you can maintain your past lifestyle in any way or fashion. You have to decide you are worth changing for. I think thats part of what made me cry when I found out I was Diabetic Feb 17, 2011. My life as I knew it was over. You have to learn the tricks. I put my water in the freezer until ice chips start to form and then pull it out and drink it. Look online at the hospitals close to you and see which ones offer a Diabetic class or support group for free . They could hook you into the added resources you need. Nibble. I have fat free cheese because my cholesterol needs lowering too. I toast my whole grain bread and it gets cripsy then I put fat free butter spray, peanut butter and sugar free jam on it. No the jam is not as good but all together on a nutty crispy base its great. Try peanut butter on a veggie or garlic hummus. Chick peas do not sound good but with the garlic its so good. Go slowly down the aisle of the store and read everything. Sugar free pudding is tasty. If you have to have a burger throw away the bun. Modify. More importantly make small goals. I find if I have goals each week, no matter how small it makes me feel like I am getting some where. Make your goal to put a water bottle in the freezer until the icy glaze appears and drink ice chips and next week try something else.

nanaellen 2011-03-27 10:15:41 -0500 Report

Hi, You found out the day before my B-day. :( I was in the hospital then having pancreatitus and had to have my gall bladder removed. I was so depressed then!! I'm sorry you have this demon called diabetes!! I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!! (Not that I have many) LOL But seriously you too have great ideas!!I can do the cheese and I do sometimes have apple slices with peanut butter at night so I won't snack on anything else. Can't do any kind of dark bread, not sure why it just makes me gag! Kirla suggested Pita bread and wraps I can do those!! I MIGHT be able to handle ice chips for a bit but have issues with my teeth. I'm gonna go back to ButterBuds (it tastes the closest to real butter) and you can sprinkle on as much as you like!! SO SO SO glad I found this site you all have been great!!!

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1cookie :) 2011-03-27 00:18:47 -0500 Report

Glad your back, sorrry your not feeling well. I'm wondering why water makes you choke when other things may not? I'm a big Doctor Oz fan. I suggest you go to Doctoroz.com for some helpful information. He has suggested fiber 1/2 hour before you eat a meal. It will help fill you up without adding calories. You must find a way to stay hydrated; maybe if you dilute other beverages you consume; maybe that will help. Tea is a dieretic, I'm not sure if coffee is but avoid it if you can. You might ba able to find a used stationary bike if you have room in your home. We have a store called reply sports that sell used items but they are in it for a profit. We also have Catholic Charities here. They don't care about if your relious or not; maybe there is something like that where you live. The libray info desk may be able to help you too. Good luck and be well. Anita

nanaellen 2011-03-27 10:25:51 -0500 Report

Hi Anita!! That's my sister's name too!! Not sure why water makes me choke either!! And I LOVE DR. Oz!! Will definitely check him out! Don't have enough room for a stationary bike but am looking into getting a REAL bike to ride around town!! I live in Newport, R.I. and we DO have some beautiful scenery here!! Years ago I used to ride around the Ocean Drive every day 12 Miles of gorgeous ocean views!! I did while in the hospital find a place that will give supplies for people with no med. ins. but it's about a hour's drive from me and just not able to do that just yet. I applied for medicaid but still waiting to hear. Thanks for all your help!! Gotta go for now be back later on!! Ellen (still smiling)

doggier 2011-03-27 00:10:27 -0500 Report

I know what you mean when it comes to the eating part. I can tell you what i do for water. I hate water also. I go to sonic or a gas station and get about 4 to 5 cup of ice, which is about 60 cents a per cup. I put them in the freg. and i take out 1 and put water in it and drink it up and keep during that all day long until i use up all the ice and then i take out another cup and put water in it until i use up all the ice. Now in the last few days I have gotten to where i am drinking about 5 glasses of water per day. It is not a per system, but it works for me. I also don't like breakfast, so i put a one slice of cheasse by my bed at night and i have that for breakfast in the morning.

nanaellen 2011-03-27 21:35:14 -0500 Report

Thanks for the suggestion but can't do too much ice, have problems with my teeth.My Mom grew up right after the war in Germany and didn't have enough nutrition and such and lost all her teeth at an early age and because of that I ended up with what my dentist refers to as "soft teeth" so their extra sensitive! But thanks for responding I appreciate all the help! Ellen (still smiling)

Kirla 2011-03-26 13:25:29 -0500 Report

Not sure what to say. I found that drinking lots of water helps. I read somewhere that most people are dehydrated. Some article I read a couple of years ago stated that most diseases can be prevented by making sure we drink enough water. There are lots of sugar free flavorings you can buy and add to your water. Don’t know if that will help or not. I have seen several different brands at Biglots that didn’t cost a lot.

The story I am posting I state which foods will spike my blood sugar if eaten. I know they spike my blood sugar. I also figure that they will spike a lot of other peoples blood sugar also. I tried cutting back but found I had to stop eating the stuff that spiked my blood sugar. If you don’t have a lot of test strips you can always cut back and eliminate some of the foods from your diet.

Another thing I learned was tiring to balance my meals. I don’t eat much carbs but sometimes they will spike my blood sugar. I found that adding some chicken to my meals helps keep the blood sugar from spiking. I eat the meat first and save the carbs for last.

Anyway this is what I did and my blood sugar went from A1C 14.1 to 5.9 in less than 4 months. My blood sugar went from the 300 plus range to almost normal numbers in about 6-8 weeks. I’m glad the cancer is off the table and wish you the best in this fight against the blood sugar and whatever else is attacking your system.

Feb 2009 I was diagnosed with a fasting blood sugar of 366 and A1C of 14.1. Started to eat a salad every day at supper. Also started to eat lots of low carb vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, cucumbers, spinach, pickles and sauerkraut. Started to drink 8+ glasses of water every day.

I then bought a meter and started to test my blood sugar before and after each meal. At first I was testing 2 hours after each meal and when my numbers dropped a lot I started testing 1 hour after meals. I was testing 5-7 times a day. I cut back or eliminated foods that spiked my blood sugar more than 50 points after eating.

By testing I found that foods like bread and most foods made of grains along with pasta, rice, corn, potatoes, oatmeal, cereals, chips, crackers, cakes, cookies, candy, soda, fruits, fruit juices, milk and most foods that contain more than 5-6 net carbs per serving as found on the package label all spiked my blood sugar. Some people can cut back on these foods and some people like me have to stop eating them.

After about 6-8 weeks my blood sugar readings were almost normal levels. After 7 weeks I quit all meds and my numbers continued to get better and better.

I found by reducing and eliminating high carb starchy foods helped me a lot. By adding small amounts of chicken, beef, pork or a hard boiled egg to my meals helped reduce blood sugar spikes also.

Good luck

nanaellen 2011-03-26 23:07:21 -0500 Report

I went through this once already when I first found out I had D. I went to different fast food places and tested and found that I can't eat any take out except for Wendy's and KFC. They didn't affect my BS's at all. But since I've had this NEW problem with the pancreas it's like starting all over again!! I thought I had changed my habits enough because I went from Humalog insulin before EVERY meal to JUST a shot of lantus at night. NOW I'm right back to square one all over again!Don't know the next step regarding my pancreas but I'm assuming that it will straighten out my sugars somewhat once they take care of that. We do have a big lots reasonably close so I'll give the flavorings a shot. All the foods you say you had to give up is everything I live on!! I do eat my veggies but I love my white bread and to make matters WORSE I'm a sandwich person!! Always have been. It's just really getting to me lately! I tell all my friends that my motto for the last few years has been "If there's a No Win situation Ellen's in the middle of it!!" Just frustrated, when I was 32 they told me NO SALT your blood pressure is too high, then I got D and they told me NO SUGAR, now the pancreas (and had to have my gall bladder out) so NO FATTY FOODS and No fried foods. So o.k. does that mean just veggies? I can't live on just veggies!! I've cut MOST of the sugary snacks and things like that out but give me a break!! I try to read the labels better than I used to so I can make better choices. Just spouting I suppose!! :) Thanks for all your advice I really appreciate the fact that you still are here for me!! I haven't given up just down for a bit. Still smilin' though!!

Kirla 2011-03-26 23:58:05 -0500 Report

Have you ever tried the low carb wraps and pita bread. I used them some and found I can eat them without it affecting my blood sugar too much. Might make a good replacement for bread. I found that most of what goes on bread is ok to eat. Even found that I can eat a small amount of no sugar added low carb jam. Other than that most of the foods you make a sandwich out of is low carb. Not all pita bread and wraps are low carb. I have found some that are less than 7-8 net carbs per serving. May cost a little more but might be worth it.

Kirla 2011-03-27 00:11:57 -0500 Report

All the foods I listed above that I can no longer eat, used to be what I lived on also. When I first started looking for foods that were less than 5-6 net carbs per serving I couldn’t find any. Lived and vegetables and chicken for a while. I found I can eat soy. Soy flour is low carb low fat and moderate protein. I make pancakes, waffles, chocolate, carrot and lately pumpkin bread cakes. I also make my own pasta from it. I found a no sugar added low carb pasta sauce at save a lots. Only cost about $1.00 a can. Last year I bought a 50 lb bag of soy flour for $50.00. Been eating cake and pasta everyday and still got 20 lbs left. I don’t really care much for the vegetables either. I found 1 cup a day of broccoli is enough. Sometimes I have to force them down. Coleslaw I make using splenda is low carb and tastes good. I also like pickles. Used to eat lots of them. Salad I don’t care for much but when I add a low carb dressing I manage to force them down most days. I probley could go on for a while longer but need to get some rest.

nanaellen 2011-03-27 09:56:47 -0500 Report

Hi Kevin, You really have some GREAT ideas I'm thoroughly impressed!! LOL Maybe it's just cause your a guy and most men don't know the first thing about baking let alone making their own pasta!!! LOL I'll be going shopping again soon and I think there IS a Save a Lot I'll be sure to check it out!! Pita's and wraps I can do!!! Thank you again and again and again!! Be back later on gotta get some stuff done around the house cause it's actually not to bad today to open the windows and air out this down feeling!! Ellen (still smiling) :)

jayabee52 2011-03-26 23:52:07 -0500 Report

Howdy Ellen!
It seems you are a living example of Murphy's Law. And I have one thing to say about Murphy: He was an optimist! LoL! I am sorry you have to go through that.

Seriously, perhaps you misspoke when you wrote "I can't live on just veggies!! ". Perhaps you meant I don't WANT to live on just veggies. (and that's just fine to feel that way.)

Vegans & vegetarians do live on just veggies. Certainly they need to watch their protein intake for optimal health, but they can live a good life on just veggies.

nanaellen 2011-03-27 09:48:03 -0500 Report

Hi James, Yes "Murphy and I have been LIFE long friends!!!! LOL And I'm REALLY serious when I say I CAN'T live on veggies alone!! I'm a meat and potato person always have been!! And seriously I don't think it's even a possiblity! I do however eat my veggies, I love veggies, Brocc., cauliflower, green beans, asparagus all of them except peas!!! I have a textural problem when it comes to food, can't do oatmeal (even though I LOVE the smell of it!! )Cream of wheat, cottage cheese, grits anything with that texture I can't even get down let alone live on it!! But all in all I try to be an optimist too! Haven't given up yet, just not feeling well right now. Hopefully when they figure this out I can get back to my normal cheerful self!! Thanks for listening! Oh by the way sorry to hear about your friends surgery being cancelled hope everything turns out for the best for her!! Thanks again, Ellen (still smiling) :)

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