guilty sin, my coffee consumption and remembering to eat

mimi3727
By mimi3727 Latest Reply 2011-03-22 08:31:02 -0500
Started 2011-03-20 11:46:52 -0500

in the morning, I love my coffee, Folgers in my cup makes me happy! with one splenda and one teaspoon of non dairy creamer. but I can drink a pot and not even blink! I love coffee! but I have read that I should limit my intake to one or two cups.
how important is this? I guess I think its a freebie, still confused on that, anyone have a answer to this?
also I have trouble remembering to eat, and dont always eat at regular times. how important is that?
and which is better splenda or stevia?
my body stopped handling real sugar two years ago, it made me feel sick, so I dont really eat it, but pasta, (wheat) is my guilty sin, how often or not often is too much?


25 replies

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-22 07:28:36 -0500 Report

Howdy MiMi!
You say you think of coffee as a "freebie", well for a while I thought that too. And from the standpoint of calories, black coffee, without creamers & sweeteners is a "freebie". But in regards to your Blood Glucose numbers ("BG#s") it does have an effect upon them.

You ask about wheat pasta. How often is too often you ask? Nobody on this board or in the medical profession can give you the answer. Only your glucometer can! We who suffer with this condition called diabetes ("DM") are individuals and we each have different reactions to different foods. What may spike my BG#s may not spike yours, and vice versa.

The only way you can custom tailor your eating plan to your unique reactions to foods is to use your meter to test your reaction to food, for instance, Canoli.

Take a "baseline" BG# before you eat (it does not need to be a fasting reading). You determine the serving (portion) size either by looking at the nutrition information on the bag or box or by going to a site like http://nutritiondata.self.com/ and looking up the food (or drink) you want to comsume there. 2 hrs after you consume the item, you test your BG#s. If the number you get from the test is 50 pts over your baseline, then you need to decide if you want to retest later, with a smaller portion size, or determine that you should not consume that substance at all.

Then I would suggest you make up a notebook (I use a 3-ring binder with loose pages) and write down your test results. I put the item consumed, and the portion size, my baseline BG# and the results at 2 hrs. Then I record my decision as to do, consume, retest (and if so, what the results of that retest was) or avoid.

You make up the notebook so your memory doesn't get fuzzy on that food, or if you seem to be affected more by the substance later on (BG#s "jump" when you consume it), you can retest the substance to see if your reaction to it has changed over time.

Only then can you say that you can eat, or not eat that serving of Canoli. And only YOU can determine that!

To your better health!

Blessings

James

Harlen
Harlen 2011-03-22 08:31:02 -0500 Report

Great post you hit the nail right on the head
That has helped me to no end I think we all would do a lot better if we keep logs
Best wishes
Harlen

diabetesfit
diabetesfit 2011-03-22 06:41:34 -0500 Report

Hey Mimi! Coffee is not anything you need to take out of your diet, but it does need to be limited. Coffee is the best source of antioxidants in our diet, but it also has been shown to boost blood sugar after the meal following it. Splenda is a no go! Stevia is a much better alternative. There are many sources and research experiments showing just how bad splenda is that I would be happy to pass on to you. Splenda has a lot of dangerours chemicals in it, and actually slows down your metabolism. Eating at regular times is huge! The most important is breakfast. Dr. Don Colbert, author of multiple best selling books, advices to eat breakfast like a kid, lunch like a queen, and dinner like a poper. I will admit I do not always follow this, but you need to get breakfast in you every morning because it jumpstarts your metabolism. By eating breakfast, you are actually burning calories, imagine that! If time is your issue by a box a health breakfast bars and grab one on your way out, it takes 2 seconds. Hope this helps let me know if you have any more questions.

diabetesfit
diabetesfit 2011-03-22 06:43:08 -0500 Report

breakfast like a king* haha, but i guess kid would work since they seem to be able to eat anything

jayabee52
jayabee52 2011-03-22 06:53:09 -0500 Report

but we shouldn't eat EVERYTHING like a kid. We would be better served nutritionally if we ate a bigger breakfast, a medium lunch and a small supper.

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-03-21 08:14:39 -0500 Report

Hi Mimi, Welcome to DC. You are getting good advice from everyone. It is important to eat, especialy, in the morning, with-in an hour of waking. One of your goals should be to keep your Metabalism up and your BG on an even keel. If you don't often feel hungry, that will actually help..just try for some healthy fuel (food) every 3-4 hours. Most important part of control is to test,test,test. Writting down EVERYTHING really helps. Note your fasting BG when you wake, then what you ate, how you feel, test 2 hrs. after eating and 3 hrs. to see if you are spiking, or leveling out, or down, write down numbers, then everything you eat, test BG,what you are doing, what exercise you do, what is going on around you. Journaling this, especialy in the beginning, will give you and DR.'s or CDE's a good view of what YOUR body is doing to handle stress, exercise, food, illness. Soon, you'll know how much pasta you can eat, how coffee works, or doesn't work for you, because, you'll see patterns in your BG test results.
It is a lot in the beginning…more questions than answers! But your body is really testing you now..I wish you the best and hope that you'll keep testing and posting.
p.s…love my coffee too!

mimi3727
mimi3727 2011-03-21 08:48:42 -0500 Report

ugh! lol ok that helps lol! i downloaded a thing that helps me keep track of all that on here so I will try that thanks

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-03-21 08:17:04 -0500 Report

p.p.s…are they your parrots in your profile pict?

mimi3727
mimi3727 2011-03-21 08:45:33 -0500 Report

yep thats bogie, my amazon parrot and squeaky my Brazilian sun conure!, my babies!

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-03-21 09:12:23 -0500 Report

my sister has a very talkative, opinionated, female parrot, named Charlie. She breaks us up almost everyday with her shout-outs. Yells "Rita,I'm home!" everytime the back door opens…even though my sister lives alone with an assortment of dogs, cats and Charlie! Charlie yells "Come here"…and the dog does!

mimi3727
mimi3727 2011-03-21 09:27:30 -0500 Report

lol mine whistles for the dogs, then says c'mer gimmie some, I looove you! an laughs. or meows to mess with them an chuckles at them as they scramble trying to find the kitty! an they are hysterical. a friend gave them to me three or 4 yrs ago when I was bedridden for about 4 months, they keep me smiling!

Pynetree
Pynetree 2011-03-21 09:35:26 -0500 Report

…too funny and they are so pretty too! What a great gift!
When I call my sister the first couple minutes I'm on the phone Charlie is yelling "Hello"…then later say "OK,Bye now!" Sounds like she is hinting we've been on too long! ; )

mimi3727
mimi3727 2011-03-21 09:49:40 -0500 Report

that cause they are attention pigs! an if your not payin attention to them somethings not right lol!

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-03-21 08:14:28 -0500 Report

I think using splenda is fine as is any other sugar substitute. I personally can't afford to buy the more natural ones because here Truvia is $3.00 more than splenda, Agave Nectar is $9.00 a bottle and we don't have stevia yet. Where as I can print off the coupons on Splenda's site and get it for $3-$4 or but a generic version for even cheaper.

To me it's all about moderation, if splenda was so horrible for you it would not be backed by the American Diabetes Association, in my opinion. But for that matter even real sugar when eaten in small truck loads is really bad for you and it is a perfectly naturally occurring substance.

The most I ever eat is maybe a few tablespoons over the course of a day and that is rare for me. and very much dispersed, may a teaspoon or two in the morning cereal, however much is in a single can of Diet Rite, and maybe a little bit if I've made a cake or cookies for a special occasion.

Moderation in everything is key, Drinking the whole pot of coffee in a sitting is not such a great idea for anyone but I think a few cups a day isn't that bad, just be sure to drink a good bit of water too so you replace anything the caffeine removes.

Some people add milk to coffee to cutback on sugar but seem to forget that milk also has carbs (11 carbs in a cup of whole) and sugar (lactose) in it so they might not be cutting back as much as they think. Carbs are just as important to watch as sugar intake because carbs turn into sugar as they are digested. But again some people may react better with the sugar in milk than table sugar and they may just not like artificial sweeteners for whatever reason.

Personally I think with the tiny amounts I use I'm no more at risk for the bad that -might- happen than I am at risk for anything else like breathing in the chemicals in the air or other food.

AuroraMoonbeam
AuroraMoonbeam 2011-03-21 00:47:17 -0500 Report

Hi Mimi!
Firstly - NEVER EVER eat Splenda - "Made from sugar, so it TASTES like sugar" - absoolute BS!! It is a manufactured chlorinated hydrocarbon! Yes Stevia is fine, Xylitol, Fruisana (in Australia that's its name) oor Purevia (made with Stevia)
I have one large coffee in the morning, just instant, half made with milk, frothed up to make a latte cappuccino and u need LESS sweetener when u do this!
I, too was guilty of forgetting to eat and my body was starving! I have changed to eating muesli or rolled oats, with juice/water not milk and check my B/Sugar 3-4 times daily, before meals and bedtime, a light lunch (2 x crumbed fish with sliced avocado & lemon juice on top and a SMALL pasta or rice for dinner.
Make the pasta and fried rice up with whatever you want, in large batches - and store in freezer in plastic lidded chinese food containers. Make sure that you drink 2-3litres (Australian spelling lol) per day and you will feel less hungry! The key is small meals and often (5-6 a day is not unusual for me - and I am NEVER hungry) I keep unsalted peanuts or other nuts handy and use them asa treat. Other small meals might be creamed sweet corn on toast, a steak sandwich or chicken wrap or maybe even tacos - does this help? Be wary of creamer - it has MSG - far better to use real honest to goodness cream!
Regards - Margaret

Graylin Bee
Graylin Bee 2011-03-20 16:21:54 -0500 Report

Welcome to DC.
Coffee can be bad if you don't drink enough water to make up for it. At least that was the rule we followed at the Assisted Living place where I worked. I forget how the caffeine in it is supposed to cause a problem. Tea can cause the same problem because of its caffeine also. Maybe the question of coffe can be answered by the nutritionist.
My choice when I have morning cornflakes was for the same reason as yours. I usually add about 1/4 to 1/2 cup of nuts and 1 Tbsp of whey powder toincrease the protein. Almond milk is what I prefer to add to the bowl. It has fewer carbs than cow, rice, or soy milk, so I can enjoy the cornflakes without a BG spike. So long story short once you figure out what works for you - go for it. Until then its is trial, test, and error
You might be able to find a low carb yogurt in your area. I have been enjoying the Kroger brand or Carbmaster that has about 4 grams of carb anad is very good tasting. I mix it with cottage cheese for added protein sometimes for a salad or dessert or as breakfast.
With testing you can learn if you can eat pasta. I can't get away with it over 1/4 cup cooked. But I have tried Quinoa pasta and it didn't spike my BG. I made an extra cheesey Mac & Cheese. I liked the taste and texture of the Quinoa over traditional pasta. I had been craving Mac & Cheese so it was a nice surprise to learn Quinoq pasta was safe for me. Learning the regular pasta wasn't was not nice.

Bunny Cakes
Bunny Cakes 2011-03-21 08:02:24 -0500 Report

Coffee is a problem because caffeine is a diuretic, so if you don't drink more water than coffee you dehydrate.

RAYT721
RAYT721 2011-03-20 11:58:34 -0500 Report

I think your questions may be best answered by your meter readings because what works for one person may not for another. The coffee question is still a mystery to us all because I've heard coffee is good, no … bad, no … it's good again! :) As with anything I think moderation may be the key. I agree about eating breakfasts, which was my biggest challenge. I had to go from no breakfasts or glazed doughnuts to more healthier choices. I don't know which of the many baby steps that I took which lead to my success in control but I am down by around 30 pounds of weight and pretty stable with my 6.4 - 6.5 a1c tests over the past year. Thank you for your questions, comments and feedback. Welcome to our family/community. I am so looking forward to hearing more from and about you.

mimi3727
mimi3727 2011-03-20 12:18:26 -0500 Report

breakfast is hard! I went an got a expensive healthy cereal to find out my sons cheep frosted flakes had less sugar and carbs! crazy! I am learning to read the info, not that it makes sense yet lol ! thank goodness I started working on my diet two years ago, now to remember to eat and tighten it up a bit. I am excited to meet my nutritionist in a week or two so I can figure this all out!
thanks for the welcome and feedback it helps.

alanbossman
alanbossman 2011-03-20 19:21:08 -0500 Report

Even after you see your nutritionist, check your BS number 1 to 2 hours after you eat. Some nutritionist use a blanket to cover all diabetics. What works for some may work for others, we are all different so make so you test after all your meals.
Alan

mimi3727
mimi3727 2011-03-21 08:58:03 -0500 Report

they told me after two hours, so far with the metformin i am doing good, I start about 115 and end around that to last night it was 95!, course it was chicken salad night lol! I love my vegies! I am trying to add more water and cut my coffee in half

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